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Old 03-23-2014, 04:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi Everyone,
Just got my first GSD and he is 13mth old Male and I am his second owner.

He is very energetic, he will sit when i tell him to (most of the time) but then he is straight up, we cant have him inside cause he wont sit down at ALL, we will not lay down and relax while anyone is around him.

When my kids , myself or my partner go out he jumps up and scratches them, and has drawn blood on myself and my partner. I have tried pushing him down and saying no, i have tried the knee in the chest, nothing seems to work, we cant turn around cause he just scratches out backs.

I dread the thought of taking him to the vet!

We have only had him for a month and cant seem to work him out.

Any advice is welcome.

Thanks in advance
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Old 03-23-2014, 04:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Exercise. And a trainer. ASAP.

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Old 03-23-2014, 04:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi, Walk him 3-4KM a day. Trying to find a good trainer now.
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Exercise, trainer, crate in the house. Separating him from the family will only make things worse. Keep him on a lead tied to you belt loop while he's in the house. Look ate leerburg.com for articles and videos. This is why so many gsds this age end up in shelters and rescues
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Hi Everyone,
Just got my first GSD and he is 13mth old Male and I am his second owner.

He is very energetic, he will sit when i tell him to (most of the time) but then he is straight up, we cant have him inside cause he wont sit down at ALL, we will not lay down and relax while anyone is around him.

When my kids , myself or my partner go out he jumps up and scratches them, and has drawn blood on myself and my partner. I have tried pushing him down and saying no, i have tried the knee in the chest, nothing seems to work, we cant turn around cause he just scratches out backs.

I dread the thought of taking him to the vet!

We have only had him for a month and cant seem to work him out.

Any advice is welcome.

Thanks in advance
It might be asking too much for a 13-month-old dog to change in 30 days. I think that you need to give it a little bit more time and establish some basic training, to change previous behaivor established guidelines you'll get there I'm sure you will
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Old 03-23-2014, 05:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Jumping up can be due to afection(although it doesnt seem that way because of his size, but think of him as a little toddler and you will understand), anxiety, excitement, playfulness, anxiety due to separation, eagerness to please the older pack members, etc.
Nothing that cannot be trained out of him without using force.

Stosh is right, keeping him away from his family(his pack members) will only make it worse.

We have a 13 month old male too. 3 -4 KM is barely enough exerecise especially for a dog that is as. active as you are describing. Lots of fetch, jogging, walking and training will tire him out though. This age is difficult but once you invest the time and patience needed in training at this age, you will have a wonderful dog. Its like teenage years.

For now, you can do a lot of ball play, running. And dont just feed him his meals.
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To teach prolonged sits and downs, start when the dog is hungry, and have him sit . say yes! and feed him a treat. then feed him another. wait a second feed him another.
Release him and then call him back and have him sit again and do the same. Gradually increase the time between the treats. Same with down. It will seem like a long way to go, but you will see progress. And he will be lying down for minutes and then half hour with intermittent rewards and then no rewards at all.

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Do you mind giving us a little history of how and where you got him, and if you are aware of any other issues with him, so forum members can guide you better?

Also, where do you live? If you are having trouble finding a trainer, I am sure someone will be able to refer you a good trainer.
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Physical exercise is not enough- if that's all there is, you're simply giving them more stamina to be wild. Not to mention that a short walk is not nearly enough for most 13-month GSD's. Mental exercise is key. Up the training. What ends up happening is that you create a cycle- the dog is understimulated and acts out, so he is separated and gets less stimulation, and so on. You've only had him for 30 days, and he has had zero training or boundaries... your expectations are unrealistic. Start with the basics and start enforcing manners and rules. It sounds like the guidance of a good trainer would be really beneficial to you, since you sound inexperienced and overwhelmed- they can help guide you to better understand why your dog behaves he does.

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Do you mind giving us a little history of how and where you got him, and if you are aware of any other issues with him, so forum members can guide you better?

Also, where do you live? If you are having trouble finding a trainer, I am sure someone will be able to refer you a good trainer.
Sorry, I live in Western Australia in the metro area.

I got him from a guy i know through work. He woved house and was staying with his parents, due to that and work commitments he was unable to care for him. I have an 8yo daughter and 5yo son and they adore him. I take him on his walks at the moment as he is too strong for my partner when he pulls on the leash. I walk him off leash like his previous owner did and he is great, he will walk 5m or so infront of me and then stop and wait for me to catch up, he will sit when i tell him to and when he walks to far ahead i stand still and he will return to my side.

He is a great dog and not even thinking of getting rid of him, he is a great addition to our family, just need to work out how to calm him abit.

Thanks again for all your advice everyone.
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Jumping is tough, they're exuberant dogs. My female is almost 15 months, she still bounces up to kiss me and the kids (my twins are 9 and my oldest is 10 1/2). If they block her, she'll put their arm in her mouth. I've taught them to catch her feet and pinch her toes. When she bounces at me, I try to stuff something in her mouth. If I don't have anything to stuff in there, I catch her. She naturally spins to get away and ends up getting a standing up belly rub. It helps. Sorta. Beats getting muzzle punched in the face like my male did at that age!

I agree with all the other posters who said if you segregate him, it just makes him loopier. Enlist the kids and find games you can play in the house. Hide and seek is great for kids and dogs.

Your daughter's old enough to learn how to train. Girls are easier than boys at doing it exactly right and speaking in that high happy trainer voice.

5 year old boys are great ball throwers and boodah tug buddies. You might find the dog who tries to yank your arm out of the socket will let your 5 year old win at tug. My daughter makes fleece tugs for the dogs out of old blankets - cut strips 1" wide and atleast 18" long then braid them together with a knot on either end. Great stretchy fun.

Always remember a tired dog is a good dog!
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