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Old 02-18-2014, 12:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi everyone,

I am a new member in the UK. I have a gogeous GSD Bitch with serious deep seeded behavioural issue. I am her third owner and I have over 20 years experience with GSDs and I am at a point now where I have 3 options

1) Three months intensive behaviour therapy by myself if this doesnt work my vet has agreed the kindest thing would be to put my girl to sleep.

2) Rehome to German Shepherd Rescue if there is space giving them all her history that i know of.

3) My Behaviour therapy works and in three months I have a dog I can keep permanently.

4 years ago I took in Brody as her owner couldnt cope and with my experience of GSDs I thought i could cope I am her third owner. All was ok then 2 years ago my health changed drastically, after several weeks in hospital I came home and hired a dog walker. I found out that Brody had cancererous lump and it was removed successfully, to this date no signs of cancer. 14th January this year I had followup surgery and was in hospital for a week, came home and in the past 5 weeks since my surgery the behaviour in 2 dogs seriously deteriorated, suffering from seperation anxiety. I have tried everything I can think of and the behaviour was much improved until yesterday when i reintroduced all 4 dogs to one room. I came home to find diahreah all over the floor. This morning i came down to find that brody had destroyed her bed, it was a brand new bed.

I have just returned from the vets with the dog with diahreah explained all thats been going on and the vet has agreed I have tried everything and if brody's behaviour doesnt improve in 3 months or if i havent found her a place with GSD rescue that the kindest thing would be to put her to sleep. Obviously i am devastated about this but we cannot carry on as we are. Life is misreable for adults and all 4 dogs. I admit due to my health i havnt been able to get brody out as much as i wouldve liked but today and henceforth she will get 1 hour run off lead at 7am as she is antisocial to other dogs and a 20 lead walk at night. Brody will now be left on her own when adults out of house with a kong and treats stuffed inside and radio on. The other 3 are together.

Sorry for such a long post but any advice would be greatly recieved, thank you for reading.

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Old 02-18-2014, 01:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi Welcome to the forum, and I'm sorry that you having to deal with serious health issues. Hope you are getting well.

Now for Brody, I'm confused what the deep-seated behavioral issues are? So far, unless I'm missing something, we have:
a) diarrhea, and
b) dog destroyed dog bed.

I think I'm missing something, because it seems that you have found a good solution (keep her separated from the other dogs, with a kong to keep her busy), and you have increased her daily exercise. - exactly what I would have suggested for a dog that suddenly started to be destructive.

I don't see how any of this is grounds for euthanasia? If you are worried that she may harm the other dogs, then doing what you are doing now, or finding her a new home would be workable solutions, and should not be a death sentence.

Another question is what are your goals for the next three months? What behaviours are you wanting to change and how do you plan to go about that?
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Old 02-18-2014, 01:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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using a crate properly could help with some of this
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Old 02-18-2014, 01:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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investigate Bach flower remedies , Rescue , Ipatiens, Walnut .

I have seen it used in a vet clinic when a dog was brought in, injured , and not by the owner - the dog was struck by a vehicle. The vet gave the dog a few drops under the tongue and the dog relaxed , and made handling the situation that much more easy.
There are people who use Rescue for car sickness, thunder storm fright, Impatiens for separation anxiety , Walnut said to be good also.
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Old 02-18-2014, 01:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Upping her exercise, and giving her a quiet spot of her own sounds like it will solve everything - but I'm also confused as to what "everything" is. What exactly does your vet think is wrong with her? Getting the runs, or being destructive just goes along with the territory of dog ownership, IMO. Stuff happens.
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Hi Welcome to the forum, and I'm sorry that you having to deal with serious health issues. Hope you are getting well.

Now for Brody, I'm confused what the deep-seated behavioral issues are? So far, unless I'm missing something, we have:
a) diarrhea, and
b) dog destroyed dog bed.

I think I'm missing something, because it seems that you have found a good solution (keep her separated from the other dogs, with a kong to keep her busy), and you have increased her daily exercise. - exactly what I would have suggested for a dog that suddenly started to be destructive.

I don't see how any of this is grounds for euthanasia? If you are worried that she may harm the other dogs, then doing what you are doing now, or finding her a new home would be workable solutions, and should not be a death sentence.

Another question is what are your goals for the next three months? What behaviours are you wanting to change and how do you plan to go about that?
I second this.. I'm a bit confused, I feel like there's more to the story that we are missing..
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Yeah, I'm confused as well... Has the dog bit someone before in a viscous attack ? Does she see you as the leader ? What's the point of putting a healthy dog down. My health suffered in 2006. It took years to get to this point in my health, I coded, so I was gone and returned, 10% return..

Please answer some of the questions, if the dog is bored to death, that's not a reason and I would like to know the discussion in detail with the vet

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Out of control is not a clear picture .............
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What are the serious behavioral issues? What have you tried so far?
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So the behavioral issues are
1) sep anxiety
2) destroying bed
3) the dreaded runs,

I have dealt with many cases of the dreaded runs and honestly they really cant help it, no one wants to have the runs
the other issues i am sure can be easily helped with some guidance and re direction.
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So sorry to hear about your medical issues. I hope you get well.
Wow , you must have had some pretty good dogs to think this one is out of control. Maybe she is sick.
My 12 month old was left alone last week for 10 hours unexpectedly. He tore all the stuffing and wood from my sons work out bench, Cost me $150 to buy a new one. It was my fault for leaving him alone so long. I dont think hes out of control...lol..
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