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Old 02-13-2014, 07:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm just wondering how should the dog act in this scenario?

I think no dog actually likes children running around it and rubbing it's head when it has to stay in one position.

If people check out the other videos with this dog, it doesn't look uncomfortable around the children at all, when they are just standing by his side.
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Old 02-13-2014, 07:22 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm just wondering how should the dog act in this scenario?

I think no dog actually likes children running around it and rubbing it's head when it has to stay in one position.

If people check out the other videos with this dog, it doesn't look uncomfortable around the children at all, when they are just standing by his side.
This is what I asked earlier....and hope someone replies.

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Old 02-13-2014, 07:43 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I'm just wondering how should the dog act in this scenario?

I think no dog actually likes children running around it and rubbing it's head when it has to stay in one position.

If people check out the other videos with this dog, it doesn't look uncomfortable around the children at all, when they are just standing by his side.
FYI- this video came up because i was researching children and dog anxiety signals (since that was the situation I was in.)my dog was doing the same thing licking lips and moving his paws forward. Then i saw that people said there were no signs of anxiety. So now Im confused. so Im asking.
Dont take it personal . this is not an attack on the person that OMG their dog is going to bite those kids..lol..Or that the dog should look super happy and roll over..lol. This is a question on whether im reading the anxiety right since the owner and trainer of this dog said theres NO sign of nervousness.

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Old 02-13-2014, 07:45 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I'm just wondering how should the dog act in this scenario?
Which scenario? A scenario where the dog is in a down-stay under heavy distraction, or a more natural scenario where kids and dogs are just hanging out in the backyard?
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Which scenario? A scenario where the dog is in a down-stay under heavy distraction
Yeah, The scenario in the video clip in this thread.

How should the dog act?

To me a stable dog may show some signs of discomfort but would allow the children to proceed.
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Old 02-13-2014, 07:56 PM   #16 (permalink)
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The dog is showing some stress.

Looking at the rest of the videos on the channel, I would say that there is some heavy compulsion used in training positions. IMO, that's where the stress is coming from.
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Old 02-13-2014, 08:36 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Yeah, The scenario in the video clip in this thread.

How should the dog act?

To me a stable dog may show some signs of discomfort but would allow the children to proceed.
Well, that's exactly what he did.

I personally prefer to see a dog watching the handler when put into a down-stay, alert yet calm, and ignoring everything else going on around him rather than being worried about it.

Once when I took a herding class, I watched the instructor put her Border Collie into a down-stay (or whatever you call it in herding) while a 4 month old pup was being introduced to the sheep. The puppy was all over the place, goofing off, trying to entice the Border Collie into play, and the BC just held her position, keeping her eye on her owner, caring as much about the puppy as a fly buzzing around her ear. Rock solid.
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Well, that's exactly what he did.

I personally prefer to see a dog watching the handler when put into a down-stay, alert yet calm, and ignoring everything else going on around him rather than being worried about it.

Once when I took a herding class, I watched the instructor put her Border Collie into a down-stay (or whatever you call it in herding) while a 4 month old pup was being introduced to the sheep. The puppy was all over the place, goofing off, trying to entice the Border Collie into play, and the BC just held her position, keeping her eye on her owner, caring as much about the puppy as a fly buzzing around her ear. Rock solid.
That sounds more like a behaviour I would be comfortable with!

To the OP you sound like you know more than you think! Trust your instincts!
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Ya know what, that u-tube was disturbing. Not so much that I was worried the dog would jump up and eat the kids, but that the dog seemed so stressed.

If my dog was that stressed in training a basic command, I would be embarrassed, and look hard at how I train, and what this dog might need to boost her confidence level. A dog should be alert or relaxed, but not worried like this dog is.
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Old 02-13-2014, 09:26 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Thank you. I guess that means I got more counter conditioning etc . work to do.
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