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Old 01-15-2014, 04:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Titan started being more alert and alerting me of "weird things" probably around 6 months. I lived in a far away german village for about a year and a half when he was a puppy.. so he didn't see much to be concerned about until I moved back to America. THEN his alert become very very apparent. That was about when he was almost 2 years old.. and he has not grown out of it one bit. To this day will bark his head off at anyone on our property until properly introduced.
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From about the first week we had him...once he sort of settled in, he started with the alertness. He was 16 weeks when we got him.

He's not fierce or anything, just very, very alert.
I'm thinking this is what Chief is doing..
just very alert. He hasn't snarled or snapped yet just does that deep low growl and deep low bark. But I'm thinking he may snarl or snap if he truly was threatened or knew true danger..
but I'm not sure!
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not saying this is your dog (dont know the situation well enough) but a lot of people think their dog is being protective when its just being nervy. a good stable dog is quiet and will bark and growl when it feels the threat is real and close enough to harm it or its owner. a nervy dog is one that barks at everything that might be a threat. barking can just be a vocal dog. growling would give me pause.

or it could be a solid dog with low threshold. either way, neither one of those is no ideal for a therapy dog.
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With halo it was pretty instant. Like once she came out of her shell she was all rin tin tin from there. And she's always showed more of it toward the kids which I love. Like she will back up me and my husband but I feel bad for anyone that comes near one of the kids. Because that's a pretty instant switch.
When we have company the first thing does is hover around where the kids are until she feels its okay. And when they go to bed halo has has to have a final inspection. If not she will paw and whine at their doors until she's satisfied. I love her priority level for her protective side.

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I'm thinking this is what Chief is doing..
just very alert. He hasn't snarled or snapped yet just does that deep low growl and deep low bark. But I'm thinking he may snarl or snap if he truly was threatened or knew true danger..
but I'm not sure!
I love alertness in dogs. Halo is laid back but she knows everything that's going on around her. We have a huge field beside our apartment where the kids run and play. And they're are some older kids that live around us that play that play there too.
Halo will kind "herd" around the dogs almost like a sheltie would if it were herding animals. She's not.okay with strangers near the kids. And if they wander too close to trouble like the woods right beside the field. She trips them and won't let them and wont let them further. Her maternal instincts are like spot on and then some

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Sorry, I had a lot of typos in that! Typing fast on my phone plus auto correct! Chief is training now and working towards his Canine Good Citizen test
so he can be a therapy dog . But now I'm worried that he may be TOO alert for that. I don't want the slightest things freaking him out. Though in class so far he hasn't been bothered by the slamming of a clip board on the ground, the noise of the trash bag opening etc when he was tested.
There's a difference at home. At home is his. His family. His house. His yard. Whatever in public its not his. The alertness may be elevated with knowing you your family your house is all his. Per say if that makes sence.

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Millie and miles will go to the door if the bell rings. If they know the people, they sit and wait for us. If they don't....they will bark real deep a couple of times. A man was running toward the girls, he was a jogger we know, but was wearing a hoodie and bigger glasses due to the rain....the dogs both stopped at the back of the car and waited until he passed before getting in. Neither barked but both watched with very stiff bodies. The older they get the less they bark and just watch...intently....! I think that is coming with training...he wants them to watch but not react unless told to or unless they need to. It may come with age....ours use to bark at the bell Every time....use to bark at the obnoxious teens behind us every time....now they just keep and eye out and bark when things are chasing us...:-/ A dog got out of someone's house...it was chasing the car....dogs went nuts, but when we came home and he did it, they did not bark....difference kids were not in the car...they had been dropped at school. Motorcycles are okay, but if the guy is wearing a face covering helmet....not okay....they have weird quirks....
The only time we have heard growling as older pups was when the older teen/20 something kid came into our back lawn...before they were 7months old they barked ducks back into the pond, geese, swans, squirrels, birds....it was crazy....and god forbid a bird land in their yard, they would try and get through the windows for such blatant trespassing.


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Eli never barked at anyone as a pup. He was raised in town, taught to be quiet and saw a lot of different people do a lot of different things. As far as I can recall he never faced anything that needed alerting to until he was much older.
When I first saw his protective-ness he was probably about two years old, we were on a walk at night and someone came up to us on a bike. He is a social butterfly, passed his therapy dog test with flying colours, has his CGC and his TEC which is similar to the TT, and he visits with everyone. This person though, he just stood beside me, puffed his chest out and let out a very quiet and deep belly growl. He did not visit this person and just stood between me and them. No barking, no hackles, just intensely stared at them, did his growl and held his ground. I gave the person the directions they wanted and we continued on our way. Other than the person being a little drunk and slightly slow I have no idea what Eli's issue was, but if my otherwise social dog decided that one person out of thousands was not allowed near me and can keep a civil head about it, I'm going with his judgement call.
He does not bark at people he sees near his yard, he does bark at the door but I figure that is more of a group thing - the pack just keeps teaching each new generation that dogs bark at door knocks, if I open the door for someone to come in he accepts my decision and does not bark at them. He generally does nothing that remotely resembles a protective dog, but how often is the average pet really exposed to a situation that requires the dog to react? To me, he is the perfect protective dog that has never been trained to protect.
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not saying this is your dog (dont know the situation well enough) but a lot of people think their dog is being protective when its just being nervy. a good stable dog is quiet and will bark and growl when it feels the threat is real and close enough to harm it or its owner. a nervy dog is one that barks at everything that might be a threat. barking can just be a vocal dog. growling would give me pause.

or it could be a solid dog with low threshold. either way, neither one of those is no ideal for a therapy dog.
This.

I wouldn't like any of these behaviors in a dog under a year old...reads nervy and lack of confidence to me....until maturity I want my dog to see little to nothing as a threat, be social (completely approachable), and confident. A puppy barking, hackling, and backing up (even walking towards) is a scared puppy to me....not an alerting dog, and it's not something I would want to see. Especially something that is a known none-threat...kids running around, my husband walking in the door, someone knocking at the front door, someone walking by the back fence. There is no reason for my dog to bark and act up to any of these things, imho. I would ignore, never encourage, and keep completely calm to show the pup I don't want that behavior for none-threats.
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my dog never showed any behaviour like your dog and if he did
i wouldn't allow it because i didn't want a protective dog. now
if your dog is truly being protective at such a young age start
training and socializing. you want to be in control of his
protective behaviour. maybe you should find a trainer.
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not saying this is your dog (dont know the situation well enough) but a lot of people think their dog is being protective when its just being nervy. a good stable dog is quiet and will bark and growl when it feels the threat is real and close enough to harm it or its owner. a nervy dog is one that barks at everything that might be a threat. barking can just be a vocal dog. growling would give me pause.

or it could be a solid dog with low threshold. either way, neither one of those is no ideal for a therapy dog.
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This.

I wouldn't like any of these behaviors in a dog under a year old...reads nervy and lack of confidence to me....until maturity I want my dog to see little to nothing as a threat, be social (completely approachable), and confident. A puppy barking, hackling, and backing up (even walking towards) is a scared puppy to me....not an alerting dog, and it's not something I would want to see. Especially something that is a known none-threat...kids running around, my husband walking in the door, someone knocking at the front door, someone walking by the back fence. There is no reason for my dog to bark and act up to any of these things, imho. I would ignore, never encourage, and keep completely calm to show the pup I don't want that behavior for none-threats.
THIS.

Your puppy is not being protective or alert - he is being fearful. Either because of weak nerves, a fear stage, or lack in confidence. You do NOT want this behavior, especially if you want him to be a therapy dog.

My 4 year old GSD, Frag, NEVER showed any behavior like this, thankfully. He was bomb proof as a puppy.

My current pup does get a little upset in some new situations with dogs at first, but he recovers quickly showing strong nerve and just a lack of confidence (since he is experiencing all of this for the first time!) and we are working to fix this everyday with great luck. His threshold is much higher now that he's been out and had good experiences.

Is it normal? For the most part. Is it desirable? ABSOLUTELY not. I'd get with a trainer to fix it asap.
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