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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 12-06-2013, 12:18 AM Thread Starter
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I have two Germans:

Allie, an 11 month old female, intact.
Cable, a 2-3 y/o male rescue.

Allie is a lover, she is very much a people dog and desires nothing but human company. She will eschew food for playtime/rubs. Her reason for being with me is convoluted and bizarre, suffice it to say her first 6-7 months was not optimal. Abuse by my standards, but nothing A/C would get in a tizzy about.

Cable is a rescue/adoption. Got him from Tar Heel Mom's rescue in fact. He's stable, stoic and aloof. He's playful, smart and confident. No real issue with him aside from a wonky eye and a possible touch of EPI(hard to put weight on him). He's solid as a rock muscle wise, just a bit ribby.

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I cannot engage Cable in play or training without Allie butting in and dominating the session. She's not dominating Cable, just trying to monopolize my time. Cable just shakes it off and goes away, he's content to do his own thing. He's the top-dog as it were, food and treats are his first right of refusal. When I can get a snatch of Cable only time, he eats it up, when Allie shows up, he loses interest and loses focus.

I have tried separation and it works to an extent. I get good focus and great results in training and play with both. Problem is, if Cable hears Allie whine or bark his focus goes out the window. He has to check on Allie. Flipped scenario and it's 100% good to go, as Cable does not whine/beg/bark. It's hard to separate quickly enough for Cable to not hear Allie make a fuss....then he goes cold for training/play.

Aliie's past is one of poor socialization and a lack of interaction. I believe she is terrified of being left alone again, so it's difficult for me to exclude her from activities. However for Cable's sake I need his recall tidied up something fierce. He comes, but it's nowhere near what I like to see. Allie is glued to me, learns fast and wants nothing more than to do what she thinks I want.

Right now my idea is to have a friend come over and distract Allie while I drill Cable some. Anyone have any other ideas?

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Crate one work the other and alternate who is in there. When they are better trained you can have one in a down while the other works then alternate that way.
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I cannot crate Allie. That's where a lot of her first 6 months were spent, in a crate, alone with nothing to do for hours on end. It would set her back months, I have no doubts of this. It took me weeks to break her from wallowing in her own mess.

It breaks my heart to think of the wasted potential in Allie due to her first few months being so bad. She is going to be a fine animal once I figure out how to display/explain to her that she will never be ignored again.

I suppose I could try and re-introduce her slowly to a crate, but my gut tells me she will freak out.

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If you're dead set against a crate anything that functions as a divider so she is out of the way for a bit will do.
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I need to crate them, well, I need to be ABLE to crate. I'm going to work on that I think. Maybe if I can get Allie to recognize that even the dreaded crate is okay in my home she will calm down a bit. She trusts me implicitly now so I outta be able to outsmart a dog.

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Do you leave Allie loose then? If so, why not take Cable somewhere else to train and play? That would be good for both of them unless she has SA.

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Feed her only in the crate for a while. You don't necessarily need to shut the door on it at first. Teach her long downs in there for food. There's tons of crate games out there. It's just a matter of making her associate it positively. You do a good enough job on it and you'll have a hard time keeping em out of it.
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Do you leave Allie loose then? If so, why not take Cable somewhere else to train and play? That would be good for both of them unless she has SA.
Doggie door and well fenced yard. My old guy, Banjo(RIP) had life long bowel issues, he had to have outside access at all times. I have a great setup that in my mind is a huge de-stresser for dogs(in/out when they want or need), so I'm rolling with that.

Allie shows precursors for full blown S/A. Crazy greeting ritual and all manners go out the window when I get home. Cable sits and waits for me, Allie loses her mind. I'm walking a razors edge with her. I need to instill some boundaries while making sure I don't lose her to anxiety. I'm so so close to having her fully on track and I don't want to derail her with a bad decision. She is young and still puppy-brained, but oh-so smart and willing and incredibly focused on me. I see so much potential in her it's maddening.

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