is this what people consider a dog with high defense?
 

If i was in trouble I dont think either of these dogs would ever help me out but was thinking about getting some alpacas. Here if we got some would need to eventually have a LGD if I was to let them free range with the amount of coywolves out there.

people that have alpacas (know more than one including person who has award winning fleece herd) use DONKEYS to keep the coyotes away

Donkey's?? That is so interesting:)

The gal down the road at the horse ranch uses Llamas to keep the coyotes and cougars out. I must say, when I run by there, and they're by the fence, they are quite intimidating, and I don't frighten easily.

A lot of people use LGDs to guard stock, especially in areas where a donkey or llama would be eaten, or in areas where small varmints are the main problem.

And yes, it's purely defense drive. LGDs have been bred for low prey drive.

I don't think it's a good idea to do PP with these dogs. It isn't a game to them, and they aren't obedient the way GSDs are; they're bred to be independent thinkers. Meaning, they have a tendency to make their own judgement calls.

I can't for the life of me figure out what they are trying to demonstrate in the second video?

The title of the second video is "Courage Test" - and in anyone's experienced eyes, the dog failed miserably.

I went on Youtube to read the comments for the second video - they range from (I'm paraphrasing, my Hungarian is getting VERY rusty) : "This is embarrassing, Owner should never have posted this video on-line, reflects very poorly on the breed",

To "Geez - de decoy did everything he could to set up the dog to bite,and still didn't bite!", to: " bet the dog is still under two years old and was intimidated by the helmet and bite suit - would have been a different story if the dog was older and the person had regular clothes on"

To: I'm convinced! There is NO way I would open the gate and walk in with that dog in there!

Pyrs and akbash are dogs I've seen in person and I can't imagine anything getting through them...

My Akbash was people-friendly and benign with any animal *I* brought onto the property. But should a strange animal show up uninvited, they were escorted off the property tout-suite. He would bark at strangers going by the fenceline, but never had the need to defend against a true threat by a human. He really loved people and wanted to think the best of them whenever possible. God I miss him.