Earlier I wrote,
This owner isn't interested, at least at this moment, in taking their dog to the SchH nationals. At this point, the desire is only for a reliable, off leash recall.
The only SchH nationals I'm interested in, is the one in my home. It took a lot of work to be able to call my dog from over 300 yards away, in the woods, and have her come running to me, without hesitation. [Emphasis Added]
Sorry Anthony8858, I have no idea what you're talking about here. I don't think that there are any SchH nationals taking place in your home. You said earlier, " ... it took me a GREAT DEAL of communication, with some very knowledgeable people (here at GS.com) to get any type of an understanding of what my goals should be with Kira."
The OP already has a good understand of her goal with her dog. She wants a reliable recall.
Thanks for letting us know that it took you "a lot of work"
to get there with the methods that you used. People who do use the Ecollar with my methods, report doing very little work, spending very little time, and that they're happy with their results.
My point being... I had to train and be trained to perfect that.
The articles on my site will take care of any training of the OP that's necessary. If she wants to learn more, there are plenty of places that can be done. But based on what we know of her history, she's not interested. And it's not necessary to learn those things to have a happy, well behaved dog.
I think more people should take the time to outline their goals with their dogs. IMO, it's a quality of life issue for both the dog and its owner. If I walked around "zapping" my dog every time she did something, I can assure you I wouldn't have the quality relationship I have with my dog. My dog respects me, and LISTENS to me because she ENJOYS it.
It seems to me that the OP HAS "outline[d her] goals."
She wants a reliable recall. MOST people here are pet owners, they have no long range plans to stand on a podium in some competitive arena, they just want a dog that comes when called, that doesn’t tear up the house, and does a few "tricks" that they can enjoy. Not everyone wants to learn about how a dog thinks, and they don't need to.
As to "walking around 'zapping' [your] dog ..."
I strongly suggest that you read my articles. What you imagine about my use of an Ecollar is just that, in your imagination. It's not what I do in this kind of work. The training is structured and, at the same time, very easy, for a novice to do.
And YES, it took long conversations from some very knowledgeable people to truly understand WHY my dog acted a certain way. These people have spent years with their dogs, and nothing can replace experience and wisdom.
It's GREAT that you are interested enough in your training to learn why your dog "act[s] in certain ways."
But not everyone is this interested, and they don't have to be to wind up with a trained dog. I agree that "nothing can replace experience and wisdom"
but again, one needn't have either, to get a trained dog.
I do believe ecollars have their place.
They certainly do not belong in the hands of an owner that doesn't have a clue about basic obedience.
I'll disagree and so would the thousands of people who have followed the advice given on my website.
I'm sorry. I stand behind my opinion on this one.
I'll suggest that you spend some time in educating yourself. You are relatively inexperienced, especially it seems, on this topic. I'd guess that you've been to a couple of clubs and have learned most of what you know from the TD and members at one of them. You've told us that you've learned a lot from the members here. Often those folks have relatively limited backgrounds and share a common viewpoint. Often they are protective of their methods and ideas and are not open to what others are doing. It's pretty common for people to think that their first mentor has all the answer. After all, you know nothing and they have an answer for every one of your questions.
I was the same way once. I was lucky that I learned very quickly how little my initial trainers knew about what they were doing, about what they taught me. It took rapid multiple failures on the street (with police dogs) and we were very lucky that no one was seriously injured, due to the lack of skill and knowledge of my initial trainers. At the time, many considered them to be "state of the art." I learned in just a few weeks that they really had very little idea. I've trained with hundreds of trainers and thousands of owners. My opinions are based on the distillation of that experience.