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Daisy&Lucky's Mom 12-15-2012 09:09 AM

Dog depression ?
 
As many know Lucky has become our only dog. After Daisy's passing we took Lucky on VK w/ us . I have made a concerted effort to spend time playing w/ Lucky ,walks in the park ,trips in the car. My husband and son were home for the first month after daisy was gone but now son is working and school,husband is back on the road and Ive had some health problems combined with some out of town trips. Lucky when I come home at lunch to play w/him often is shaking and my son says the same thing. It does not happen on the weekends when all three of us are home. He will see the vet in January,not that I think this guy will help much. He eats sleeps doesnt show signs of pain . He also does not want to come inside and Ive sucumbed to jingling his leash so he will come in in the morning. This will stop working at some point. He's different. My sister inlaw was over last weekend and she said "Lucky was always easy going ,happy and was always right w/ every body he seems depressed ". Any advice on ways to help my boy ? We want to get another dog (female) but his meeting a young female did not go well.

Gharrissc 12-15-2012 12:41 PM

I've only had a couple of dogs who got depressed after a housemate died or got adopted.Usually time is the only thing that will help them. It sounds like you are doing a good job with the extra one on one time that you are giving Lucky.

RowdyDogs 12-15-2012 12:57 PM

I have also seen a few dogs become depressed in situations like this. Time helps, just like when people mourn a loved one. I agree that the extra attention you're giving Lucky is probably one of the best things you can do.

If you want another dog, I would say continue trying to introduce him to ones you like. The one introduction could have gone badly for a lot of reasons, and he may be very happy with another dog in the home.

Something that does occur to me is that since Lucky is older and Daisy was also quite old when she passed (judging by dates in your sig), a young dog might not be the best option. He may want a quiet companion, not a high-energy overgrown puppy running around. ;) If you do think that might be the case but you want a young dog, maybe consider fostering an older rescue dog for awhile, and then getting a younger dog either when the foster is adopted and Lucky has had more time to get used to life without Daisy, or if you're willing to wait what will hopefully be a long time, get the younger dog after Lucky passes. I've seen people go that route in similar situations and have it work out very well.

wolfy dog 12-15-2012 01:10 PM

In case Lucky is an outside dog I would move him indoors where he can be more secure, surrounded by familiar smells. If you have to leave him alone, give him your old sweater, socks or whatever you can afford to be chewed up but has your scent on it. Play the radio or TV.
When our old dog died the younger ones (oldies themselves) went on a hunger strike for 5 months. One of them I had to prevent her from jumping in his grave during burial. I had a heck of a time keeping them alive. If I had let them they would have died. They lost every bit of life in them. So we went fun places, made them the best meals and eventually they returned back to their normal selves. Also I didn't baby them to prevent more needyness. I don't think adding another dog during that time would have helped them but more confused them. By the time WD came along they had been OK for several months.
I hope your home will be happy soon. It is so hard missing them and especially if the other dogs suffer as well.
I never knew what an impact the death of a pack member would have on the other dogs.

Daisy&Lucky's Mom 12-15-2012 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gharrissc (Post 2656167)
I've only had a couple of dogs who got depressed after a housemate died or got adopted.Usually time is the only thing that will help them. It sounds like you are doing a good job with the extra one on one time that you are giving Lucky.

Thanks. I so badly want him back full strength and be he usual self. Ive had to accept He is older,actually he is about 11. I do want another dog but didnt think that a puppy would be good . Thought about adopting an older female but need help introducing.Im trying to give him one on one but feel now its not enough.

Daisy&Lucky's Mom 12-15-2012 01:44 PM

Wolfydog Lucky has always been an indoor dog . Ive tried the TV but maybe music or talk radio. I'll try to find a blanket that I use alot and put it on his bed.

Rowdy Dogs: Hubbie thinks a puppy but as I am primary care giver i say older dogfor the reasons you stated. My first priority is Lucky's ability to have a happy and safe life and that would be my priority w/ any dog I have. Thanks it was good to hear someone else's thoughts on the spending time . I do think though Ive increased his neediness.

GatorBytes 12-15-2012 02:01 PM

Boost Lucky's serotonin and dopamine with food:)
Sardines, salmon, turkey, banana's (tiny bit, high in potassium), eggs (b-vit.)

Low dopamine levels can cause depression, a loss of satisfaction, addictions, cravings, compulsions, low sex drive, as well as an inability to focus. Tyrosine is another important amino acid (a building block of protein) found in dairy products, meats, poultry and nuts. It encourages your brain to release dopamine and norepinephrine. These neurotransmitters act as stimulating substances to the brain and can help perk you up by making you feel more alert and sharpening your thinking. In addition to meats and dairy products, other specific tyrosine-rich foods that help increase dopamine levels are almonds, avocados, bananas, lima beans, pumpkin seeds and sesame seeds.

Foods That Increase Dopamine & Serotonin | LIVESTRONG.COM

Also note: this also precurser to melatonin which is supplimented for anxiety (re: shaking)

Daisy&Lucky's Mom 12-15-2012 06:08 PM

Gator Bytes Thanks. I have sardines and Tuna on hand , I think Ill do some brown rice with tuna ,sardines and some freezer burnt salmon mix that w/ some kale and spinach. The link was very helpful.

GatorBytes 12-15-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Daisy&Lucky's Mom (Post 2656370)
Gator Bytes Thanks. I have sardines and Tuna on hand , I think Ill do some brown rice with tuna ,sardines and some freezer burnt salmon mix that w/ some kale and spinach. The link was very helpful.


You are welcome:)...hey, don't forget to throw in some egg 2-3x a week - superfood!

Also, if you can find some raw organic pumpkin seeds, bake them on low heat for 5 mins (just in case of salmonella), grind them as fine as you can - good for the dopamine, part but is also a natural parasite cleanser...sprinkle about a tsp per meal - also source of zinc.

Daisy&Lucky's Mom 12-15-2012 06:42 PM

Lucky is currently on strike w/ eggs. He ate one late one night and spent the night barfing so he wont eat one now. He used to get eggs twice a week for breakfast when my husbnd came in off the road. He and daisy knew that after dad ate his eggs and toast their's would be in their bowl. Im going to a farm market tommorrow and they grow pumpkins so I will check on pumkin seeds.


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