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jocoyn 12-11-2012 09:38 AM

How about some doggy psychobabble
So I throw the ball with Beau twice a day among other things. We only play tug and "two ball" as a reward for his cadaver work or for obedience, and the ball in the backyard is with one kong on a is at a much lower intensity than his reward play.

With the toy for cadaver work he either pushes it at me to play tug or drops it for retrieve if he sees the second ball. Extremely high energy and engagement.

With the ONE ball for some excercise...... he ONLY drops it if I say out, does not push it at me, but if I don't say "out" he teases me with it (shaking it, holding it, looking at me while holding it, etc.) at a distance (within reach, maybe 2-3 feet). Sometimes I have to take it from him because he does not want to let go. Game over then.

I am not looking for advice on how to fix -- don't really think its a problem-- just curious what is going on between those radar ears. He is 17 months.

onyx'girl 12-11-2012 09:43 AM

he wants to tug more than fetch!

Kyleigh 12-11-2012 09:44 AM

It's a long limb I'm going to go out on ... is he looking for the second ball ... and then he wants to work?

His brain: hmmm ... one ball means play, TWO means work, and I want to work ... so if I don't give her the first ball, she'll have to get the second ball and then we get to work!!!

Or am I giving your dog too much credit?

Lilie 12-11-2012 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by jocoyn (Post 2652587)
With the toy for cadaver work he either pushes it at me to play tug or drops it for retrieve if he sees the second ball. Extremely high energy and engagement.

What is the distance he stands (you being the marker) to play with the toy for cadaver work?

jocoyn 12-11-2012 12:58 PM

Either I reward him with me at source, or someone else may also either by throw or sneaking it there then he runs at me like a frieght train with the toy and jumps on me to tug shoving it at me. It is the only time he gets to solicit a tug game with me. Seems to add to the motivation for him.

The toy may be placed from a few inches away or thrown from maye 20 varies.... We try not to have the seeing the toy appear at source as best we can.

msvette2u 12-11-2012 01:04 PM

We have a few Dachshunds that enjoy fetch. One is actually almost OCD about it.

They don't like to give you the ball when they bring it back. One will have you take ahold of it, but won't let go, so you kind of play tug of war with him a bit, then he's ready for the fetch.

The other will move his head when you reach for the ball. During these episodes, neither dog is "guarding" the ball, at least not in a serious way. If you managed to get it, they'd be ready for the fetch. The 2nd dog will eventually lay the ball down and move into position for the fetch.

It's like...the fetch is the ULTIMATE. But they like to prolong the moment to the fetch ;) I think it's more fun to them, if they can prolong it. I dunno. It's all part of the game. LOL

pyratemom 12-11-2012 01:09 PM

I'm often surprised at what I find goes on in Raina's head. I think your dog may be just soliciting more play but wants to tug (possibly). The other day I was working Raina over a low jump (12") we got recently because she hasn't much experience with jumps. She kept jumping too soon and her tail would knock the bar down when she went over. We tried with me giving the command when to jump and she knocked it down 3 time in a row. The last time when I bent over to put the bar back on and stood back up she jumped over the jump from a sit at my side, landed on the other side, bounced back over, and back again with less than a step in between the jumps and didn't hit the bar once. Then she sat back down and looked at me with an expression that said - "I know how to jump if you will just let me." It never ceases to amaze me how smart they are. It was really hard to control my laughter.

jocoyn 12-11-2012 01:17 PM

LOL they are funny - yes I know that look!

Maybe the gears are going in his head. He knows that trying to get me to tug does not work in the backyard-so maybe we are waiting each other out. He is a smart one. At the vets office they offered him a treat and he looked back and forth between her pocket and eyes and threw himself down into a perfect "down". She laughed. He got paid.

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