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Old 12-03-2012, 11:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I've read lots about prey levels ... low, medium, high and extreme.

I'm trying to determine the definition of them, and of course have to come up with one for Kyleigh (not really, but it's fun!)

I'm not really sure what Ky's prey drive is ... here are some examples:

Outside, off-leash, chasing a squirrel or anything else - I can call her off instantly

Inside with the cat - IF I don't say leave it, she will chase the cat (admittedly the cat is a HUGE PITA and will walk all around her while she's lying down). BUT, if I say leave it, she will leave the cat alone.

Inside with the parrot - If Echo - my grey is in her cage and just hanging out, Kyleigh's learned to "ignore" her. However, if Echo goes to take a bath in her water bowl ... Ky's on full alert and I've actually caught her in mid-air going after Echo. (Done it twice ... last time was about 3-4 months ago ... and yesterday Echo took a bath in her water bowl, and Ky didn't move)

If I didn't call her off of the cat / the outside critters / my grey ... I have no idea how "far" she'd take it ... and I don't want to test that!

I do believe that as a dog, if she caught a squirrel / rabbit, etc, she'd likely kill it (she's not exactly quiet while she's chasing them, so the wildlife is pretty safe around her LOL)

She's 18 months and still maturing!

So what would you guys characterize her as? LOW / MEDIUM??? What else should I look for?

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Old 12-03-2012, 02:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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anyone?
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Old 12-03-2012, 02:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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My Ari is "high-drive" but I can call him off of cats, trust him around small dogs and recently even called him off a helper.
His brother Anik is also high drive but I cannot call him off of small animals, and would not leave him unattended with my poodle.

For them, it is not prey-drive, but something else.... thresholds, pack-drive, genetic obedience?? Not sure what to call it, but the difference is obvious.
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Old 12-03-2012, 02:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Good questions.

And if my dog does not break the boundary of our invisible fence to pursue a rabbit, what does that say about prey drive? Chases the cat but doesn't hurt it.

Hope you don't mind my jumping in, Kyleigh -- I've been wondering about this myself.
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No problem ... hopefully someone will provide some clarification!
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more important than grading the drive is understanding the motor patterns,
orient>eye stalk>chase>grab bite>kill bite>dissect>consumme, and when to insert
a call off.

safest to call off at eye, if you are paying attention.

If you didn't notice, and the cat got killed, that's not necessarily extreme, just unchecked.
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Its all relative. High drive to me means something different than High Drive to someone else... its not like "I can recall them from a squirrel" means they are "High drive" but not "extreme". You may get another dog and go "wow, this is extreme dog"... then go train with someone with a crazy dutchie and go "Ok... my perspective shifted.. I'd call mine just high drive now".
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Is there a reason why some dogs shake their prey (shake head from side to side) and others don't? Our female shakes anything she gets her mouth on if it can be done. (you can't shake a 3" ball or a mosquito ) I've never seen our male do it. Does that have anything to do with the level of prey drive?
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I would consider my guy high drive when it comes to squirrels or rabbits but he also knows that the cat is totally off limits and he will actually lick my moms cat - it's actually quite cute . We have had trouble with the recall with him especially if he is chasing deer though I wouldn't consider him high drive - more like low drive because he has no desire to bite, tug or do anything like that.


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more important than grading the drive is understanding the motor patterns,
orient>eye stalk>chase>grab bite>kill bite>dissect>consumme, and when to insert
a call off.

safest to call off at eye, if you are paying attention.

If you didn't notice, and the cat got killed, that's not necessarily extreme, just unchecked.

Oooh....I like this!
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