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Old 11-17-2012, 11:51 PM   #31 (permalink)
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The Boxer has resource guarding issues. I have two Boxers and the youngest redirects at my GSD. We had leashed or crated dogs for quite awhile. My advice is get a trainer who can teach you how to integrate a pack. My personal opinion is there is a lot of flaky Boxers with aggression issues...and I have two of them.

No toys on the floor to fight over. Leashed or crated dogs so they do not have the opportunity to fight. Trainer to help you work with both dogs. You need to teach her that she has no reason to resource guard her toys and teach her to accept another dog in "her" space.
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:54 PM   #32 (permalink)
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thats the straight answer i was looking for..like i said i tried letting them settle it (got told that was wrong i guess),and they could not do it on there own and my braking them up has not worked yet,hopefully doing it for them like you have said will work
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:01 AM   #33 (permalink)
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First, it takes 2-3 week for the stress hormones to come out of the body after a fight. You need to keep them separated during that time...period... what you are probably seeing is an escalation partially due to that. That's our experience. We would go months with no problem. Then 1 fight and we would have 3 a week.

Second, we had to get a trainer involved. It is so stressful living with dogs that hate each other. The boxer has all sorts of issues and triggers. We figured out most of them but then something like the washer going out of balance set her off on Jax one day. Oddly, I went out of state with Jax to visit family in May and we haven't had an issue with those two since. It's like something reset in Sierra's brain.

I can't stress enough...no toys, no chance of fighting (crate or leash) and a good trainer to help you teach them the other is not a threat and to build pack behavior.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:13 AM   #34 (permalink)
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lol wow i think our two dogs are related that sounds exactly like our boxer!!!i had no clue about the 3 week thing that makes WAY more sense and explains so much!
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First, it takes 2-3 week for the stress hormones to come out of the body after a fight. You need to keep them separated during that time...period... what you are probably seeing is an escalation partially due to that. That's our experience. We would go months with no problem. Then 1 fight and we would have 3 a week.

Second, we had to get a trainer involved. It is so stressful living with dogs that hate each other. The boxer has all sorts of issues and triggers. We figured out most of them but then something like the washer going out of balance set her off on Jax one day. Oddly, I went out of state with Jax to visit family in May and we haven't had an issue with those two since. It's like something reset in Sierra's brain.

I can't stress enough...no toys, no chance of fighting (crate or leash) and a good trainer to help you teach them the other is not a threat and to build pack behavior.

what kind of fights were you having? was jax the gsd making the boxer bleed? 2 or 3 weeks is a long time that is scary wow
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WOW, I don't envy you and your problem. Mac and Slider used to get into nasty fights triggered by toys. The only way I resolved it was I banned them from playing with toys in the house and I keep them separated outdoors where they can play with all of their toys.

The worst fight I've ever had happened last Spring when both guys were seniors. I'd kept them separated for 5 or 6 years when they were outdoors and decided to try letting them out in the yard together ... it was a HUGE MISTAKE.

They got into a terrible fight and Faith and Bruiser joined the fracas. Bruiser was soon out of the fight but I couldn't break up the other three, even with water, hitting them on the head, etc. Finally I took my heavy cord jacket off, wrapped it around Slider's head like a blindfold, then punched Mac and Faith in their heads with my fists until they stopped the attack and backed off, then I walked Slider back up to the dog pen, took the makeshift blindfold off, and locked him in. All four dogs were very bloody so I rinsed them ... I swear I was so angry I could have killed them so I had to come into the house until I cooled off.

I'll never make that mistake again, and keep them separated outdoors until one of them goes to the Bridge.
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:21 AM   #37 (permalink)
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i think all (or most)of us dog owners have had our share of dog fights!i have always had blue and red heelers my parents bread them when i was a kid,ill just say we had a few dogs at once lol. and when you have so many you can not just brake it up cuz they just dont care when they get a stick up there lol...and the dogs we first got were import from australia so they still had some wild in em .but once they got a pack order they were fine...that part of why i just did not get what these two are doing cuz all my other dogs were fine after they set who was boss the first time
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what kind of fights were you having? was jax the gsd making the boxer bleed? 2 or 3 weeks is a long time that is scary wow
It escalated over time. Yes, Sierra had wounds at times from the fights. Boxers were bred for large game hunting. Their structure is bred to crush, not tear so they have little teeth. The damage they do is from crushing the opponent's throat. Jax fought back and bit her shoulder and leg area. Her teeth are designed for tearing. This happens in a matter of seconds. I found the best way to break up the fight with my two was to grab Jax's collar and just walk in between them because Jax will stop biting as soon as I'm in the middle. Sierra bit my hands a couple of times but better I have a few scratches than having a hurt dog.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:53 AM   #39 (permalink)
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So glad other's chimed in to help the OP I hope he can get it worked out soon.

On the rare occasion that my two fight I separate, crate & rotate for a bit. It is usually over something simple and they are usually able to be together shortly afterwards but I have to be flexible in how I handle each episode. It has been nearly a year since they have had one now...praying it continues to be peaceful.
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