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post #11 of 34 (permalink) Old 03-07-2014, 12:48 PM
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*snickers at LaRen* True at that young age, it could still descend.

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post #12 of 34 (permalink) Old 03-07-2014, 01:34 PM
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so what did the breeder say? did you express your unhappiness?

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I always have my vet check and document testicles. A buyer should be informed, the situation discussed and given the option of whether they want a monorchid or not in my opinion....I do not believe it is ethical to sell a pup - even as a pet - without disclosing this. Often the vet can feel the second one, and it is very likely it will drop, but still should be monitored.....

When I got Orick, he had one testicle, assumed the other hadn't descended. The breeder who gave him to me had rescued him at 6 months from an abusive breeder. His bloodlines are good Czech, and she was actually thinking of putting him into her breeding program since she had obtained his papers when she took him--sort of a forced acquisition. When she discovered the undescended testicle, she decided she would find him the best pet home she could. In the meantime she was involved in a serious accident with a long convalescence, and had other people helping her with her dogs, resulting in other issues with Orick, including an accidental breeding. Out of the resulting litter, two males also had undescended testicles. When I had Orick neutered it was major surgery, and all the vet found was a gnarled bit of tissue where the supposed undescended testicle was supposed to be. Strange, but it had to be genetic.

The other male in Orick's only litter, btw, already has his Sch II title, don't know where the girls are. Orick's original breeder was angry when he found out that Orick had been placed in a pet home and neutered. Shoulda thought of that when he starved, neglected and abused him! Sounds like he would have used him at stud, bad testicle and all, the fool!
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Havoc had one testicle that had not dropped when I got him at 8 weeks. It did drop within the next month.

If the breeder knew about it they should have told you.


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You should have been told. My trainer who also raises GSD's had a pup a few years ago with an undescended testicle. She made it clear to all looking that he was a pet only pup and would be neutered. I don't think the condition is all that uncommon but a reputable breeder will let you know...and give a discount!!!
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Agree you should have been informed, as mentioned a vet can feel to see how low it is. They typically drop by 8-10 weeks but it can go longer, chances after 16 weeks get slimmer and if they aren't decended by 6 months they are considered cryptorchid.

There has been limited success with hcg injections (testosterone) to help them decend but they have to be done before 16 weeks.
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I would be upset and have the conversation with the breeder NOW. What does your contract say? It is abdominal surgery to remove an undescended testicle and you want it out if it does not come down.


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It could still descend, but you should have been told and given the option. I have produced a few over the years and always gave the buyer the option. If the testicle did not descend I give a refund to cover the costs (reasonable costs) of the more expensive neuter. Most wait until the dog is at least 2 and then have only the retained testicle removed.

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if he is just over 7 weeks, I would say not having both testicles down isn't uncommon. They typically descend about 8 weeks + as someone mentioned above.
That could explain why the breeder didn't tell you - he is too young for them to be both expected. I would ask the breeder to find out exactly what is going on.
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post #20 of 34 (permalink) Old 03-07-2014, 09:27 PM
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My understanding is that it's not uncommon for testicles to go up & down in a young pup so it's possible the breeder didn't realize it. As others have said, talk to the breeder. Please try to NOT be upset with the breeder at this point. There's nothing to be gained & it could adversely affect future communications. Hopefully, this is someone you'll happily be in contact with for another 12-14 yrs. It's much better if it remains a friendly relationship. At this point there's really no reason that it shouldn't.
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