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Lobobear44 12-20-2013 01:10 PM

Is this breeder responsible?
 
lengagsds Is this breeder responsible? I have chatted with this breeder and was educated by her breeder thing. So am knowledgeable what makes a responsible breeder. I will visit with her sometime next week not to purchase a puppy just to hang out with her dogs. She has offered me a puppy kindly and also answered my breeder questionnaire thing. Answered truthfully with what responsible breeders do. Although I said perhaps in a few years will consider due to college plans comes up first and after wards. We'll have to see what lies in the future first because we never know the future for certain. If nobody wants a dog anymore returns, her dogs are big and healthy guarranteed, excellent references, great quality, amazing personality, calm and gentle. Although she is slowing down she is not stopping to breed.

Saphire 12-20-2013 01:33 PM

Before I speak to alot of red flags on this breeders website, what are YOU looking for in a GSD?

MrsFergione 12-20-2013 01:36 PM

I'm confused what you're looking for as I had trouble reading your post. You're wanting to know if they are responsible but you do not plan to get a puppy or dog, just hang out with them? There's also a lot of things on the website that would make me shy away too.

wolfstraum 12-20-2013 05:22 PM

sorry - I see someone with a nice line of what every one wants to hear, but with no credentials on dogs to back up the price structure.....a few dogs with West German show lines, bred, their progeny bred, and the bottom lines are pretty much pet breeding with nothing substantial to commend them - other than listings of health testing....ie, a commercial breeder specializing in high priced pets with nothing of substance to justify the prices....you can get dogs from good breeders who show and work their dogs for the same or - GASP!!! - less money....pups from dogs who have won Nationally - not just showed up and placed in the bottom 5 - but WON - and dogs who have competed in World Championships for the US....

The breeder may be a very nice person, she probably loves her dogs.....and I am smacking my own hands not to say a few things....But this is not a breeder I would want to be mentored by, or emulate...

Lee

Lobobear44 12-20-2013 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Saphire (Post 4702914)
Before I speak to alot of red flags on this breeders website, what are YOU looking for in a GSD?

@Saphire not looking for a dog for now. Just education on breeders responsible and irresponsible. What's so about this breeder? She answered my questionnaire dogs are healthy, great quality, calm, outgoing, etc dogs. Also gets dogs back when ppl can't have them.

Lobobear44 12-20-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfstraum (Post 4703970)
sorry - I see someone with a nice line of what every one wants to hear, but with no credentials on dogs to back up the price structure.....a few dogs with West German show lines, bred, their progeny bred, and the bottom lines are pretty much pet breeding with nothing substantial to commend them - other than listings of health testing....ie, a commercial breeder specializing in high priced pets with nothing of substance to justify the prices....you can get dogs from good breeders who show and work their dogs for the same or - GASP!!! - less money....pups from dogs who have won Nationally - not just showed up and placed in the bottom 5 - but WON - and dogs who have competed in World Championships for the US....

The breeder may be a very nice person, she probably loves her dogs.....and I am smacking my own hands not to say a few things....But this is not a breeder I would want to be mentored by, or emulate...

Lee

So she is a byb?

wolfstraum 12-20-2013 06:03 PM

BYB is a broad term and means different things to many people.....but in broad parameters, pretty much - yes, she does cite health testing...but the pedigrees, the goals, etc are not those of a knowledgeable breeder....

Lee

LeoRose 12-20-2013 06:05 PM

One thing that is a big red flag for me is that I have a spayed mutt with an iffy temperament who has more titles than the dogs she is breeding from. While a CGC might be the end goal of someone's family pet, I expect much higher titles from breeding stock, be they show championship titles or working titles.

Merciel 12-20-2013 06:05 PM

Forgive me if I'm remembering this incorrectly, but you're a young teenager, right?

So maybe make this a critical thinking exercise. Discount what the breeder says about herself and her own dogs -- just eliminate that entirely from your analysis. Pretend it doesn't exist.

Review the website with a critical eye. Read between the lines. What's there? What isn't there? What words are used to describe these dogs that might be interpreted by some of the people on this board as red flags? Why?

I have never met this breeder and I'm not familiar with her dogs. I know nothing about her program and cannot speak to its merits or deficiencies. But it's clear to me why some of the representations made on the website might meet a cool reception here, and if you take some time to think it over yourself, you should be able to reach the same conclusions quite easily.

DaniFani 12-20-2013 06:23 PM

All her females are bred at 7/8 MONTHS old?! I hate most of her answers, but this one in particular.


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