Whidh One?

[POWERSCOL]

Here is a picture of the parents. Does anyone see any red flags here. I have another of the Dam (dog to left in back) if needed.

[Jag]

The 'red flags' would come from things about the breeder, the puppy contract, the pedigree, etc. Nothing that could be seen in pics, although they're always wanted! You'd be better off in terms of finding out what people think about potential red flags if you posted the breeder's website (if they have one) or kennel name, and the pedigree of the pups or at least the names of mom and dad.

[POWERSCOL]

The sire or these pups is out of Gunbil kennels World Class German Shepherd Dog Breeder Sire Fanto Fanto vom schönen Wippertal and Dame Sandy vom Blumenkamp

Both are imports. I do not have the Dam information yet of this litter.

Just wondering what folks think so far.

Thanks for the help

[POWERSCOL]

I am no longer considering the litter - I found the parents were not certified on the hips and elbows Sorry for taking your time.

After a lot of research I am concentrating on finding a working line litter, preferably from Europe that has not been show dog mixed as these were.

To the webmasters - please delete this entire thread - Thanks

[onyx'girl]

I would go to some clubs so you can see the dogs working/training and maybe you can make some breeder connections that way.
Sandy supposedly has a-stamps hip SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Elbow SV: ED a-normal
I don't think this thread can just be deleted, maybe a mod or admin can edit out the dogs names in the post #13....but threads here are seldom deleted.

[POWERSCOL]

Thanks - unfortunately there are no clubs close. However I did find an agility trainer that has owned and worked with a lot of GSD dogs that is helping me. She emphasized she does not train AKC show dogs, nor does she like the direction AKC is taking the show line breed. She believes in the GSD staying true to the working line, even herding as well as protection. I need to be looking for strong European linage and working titles. I know this is a very sensitive topic, so I apologies for my views if I have offended anyone.

Thanks again

[GsdLoverr729]

Rather than going off of that, I suggest you go out and MEET dogs from different lines. I was all for working until I began meeting show line dogs with breeders who cared a lot about working ability, health, and temperament to go along with their looks. There are bad breeders in all lines.
Also, you'd be amazed at the working line dogs bred right here in the U.S. Just because a dog is imported does not necessarily mean it's better. Just food for thought.

[POWERSCOL]

GsdLoverr729 - Thanks for the information. You are very correct.

PS I like your site and the names - if I may suggest two more for the ladies "Schotzie" I think I spelled it correct and "Sierra". Both were GSD working dogs I ran across in the past, one rescue and one K9.

[GsdLoverr729]

Schatzi lol (: I'll add that one. Sierra is common enough I may or may not add it.
And thank you (:

[carmspack]

you realize in the working line you are 99.9% not going to get black and rust .