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post #11 of 22 (permalink) Old 11-03-2012, 12:41 PM
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1s and 2s! Grim sounds like my kind of dog lol. Curious though as I have never preformed the test in the umbrella portion what if the dog initially ran then turned around and came to investigate. Is it the immidiate response that is judged or the final outcome. As in startled ran then came back to mouth the umbrella is that a 1 or 6. Just wondering.
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Thank you, Chris! What method of 'testing' do you use? When I went through this 3's test, Grim scored mainly 1's with some 2's. It seems fairly accurate description wise of him, but I wondered if this really was a true picture and if breeders actually use it.
I'm not sure if you can do this test yourself. And it might be too late to do it to an older pup. You're also biased as this is your dog, you've seen him react to things for a while now and you have "expectations." This test really needs to be done by someone that has had a lot of experience with a variety of puppies, someone new/strange to the dog, and I'm pretty sure at a younger age.

This is a test that needs to be done when you first meet the dog...you have already had way too much experience with the dog in order to give a non-biased evaluation and also seeing him grow you forget how he would've actually responded to such testing when he was 8 weeks old and seeing these types of situations for the first time. You don't know how much of his reaction is natural and how much of it is the training you have done.
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I'm not sure if you can do this test yourself. And it might be too late to do it to an older pup. You're also biased as this is your dog, you've seen him react to things for a while now and you have "expectations." This test really needs to be done by someone that has had a lot of experience with a variety of puppies, someone new/strange to the dog, and I'm pretty sure at a younger age.

This is a test that needs to be done when you first meet the dog...you have already had way too much experience with the dog in order to give a non-biased evaluation and also seeing him grow you forget how he would've actually responded to such testing when he was 8 weeks old and seeing these types of situations for the first time. You don't know how much of his reaction is natural and how much of it is the training you have done.
I'd agree.. but most of this was actually observed when I first brought him home.

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Don't worry about it. My Sting would have tested exactly the same way. He turned out to be a bold confident friendly GSD but formidable if need be - no aggression or fear issues. Relax and enjoy Grim.

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Thank you all for your responses and input! We're anxious to get our little guy home!

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This is a really good thread! I have a number 2, and we are working with her and she will become a working dog.
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I've had 2 New Skete Dogs,both tested all 3s and both are completely different temperaments.
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wouldn't use it , would not ask a breeder to test their dogs using it , would not allow a prospective buyer to test using it.

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For those breeders who don't use or don't believe in the Volhard test what test do you use if any to evalute the pup in order to place him/her with the right owner?
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Most breeders I know use tests that they have learned from other successful breeders, often with their own tweaks added over the years. This is what we do.

As far as 'prepackaged', I think the PAWS test is a far superior one to the Volhard, particularly for working breeds like GSDs. Sheila Booth's puppy test is also excellent. Bernhardt Flinks' is very good too.


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