Luna and i start puppy class tomorrow(Any good trainers in the Solano County, CA)

Brewzer1818 · 01-21-2012, 01:06 AM

We start training with Bob Vance owner/trainer of American Canine institute, in Dixon,CA.
Bob has been training in obedience, aggility, schutzhund, and protection for over fifty years. His site can be seen at Welcome to American Canine Institute

Any feedback would be appreciated. This is my first GSD, I work from home and am fully committed to apply the needed time on training her and myself so that she can become my everyday/everywhere companion.

**MaggieRoseLee** · 01-21-2012, 09:45 AM

Can't wait to hear how well you are both doing! Take tons of photos!!!!

**Cassidy's Mom** · 01-21-2012, 01:42 PM

Wonder why they don't use any food in training?

Brewzer1818 · 01-21-2012, 06:51 PM

Well we had our first class.... Time to look for a new trainer. Maybe it is just me but expecting to train a 12 week old puppy with nothing other than quick snap leash corrections, and an ocaisional pat on the chest is rediculous.

upon arrival, after a 10 minute puppy socialization, we went straight into a strict heel exercise. This we worked on for 30 minutes using only leash corrections, and verbal cues. Then he brought out hit protection trained GSDs to show us how well behaved they are.

If this is how he trains his puppy class, I would hate to see his obedience classes.

Don't get me wrong, I am not opposed to leash corrections, but lets work on encouraging the behavior a little first.

Anybody know of any good trainers in the Solano County area of California?

**MaggieRoseLee** · 01-21-2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Brewzer1818

Well we had our first class.... Time to look for a new trainer. Maybe it is just me but expecting to train a 12 week old puppy with nothing other than quick snap leash corrections, and an ocaisional pat on the chest is rediculous.

Good for you for realizing that is NOT appropriate training for a 12 wk old puppy

**Cassidy's Mom** · 01-21-2012, 07:53 PM

After looking at the website, I'm not at all surprised. I agree with MRL - good for you!

I did a quick search of the Association of Pet Dog Trainers website, and here are a few of the hits I got that sound much more appropriate for a young puppy. Sirius has a Vallejo location, if that's not too far:

Sirius Dog Training - Class Descriptions

Summerwind Canines

thinking dogs (.net)

I also know of a great private trainer in Vallejo, but I don't think that's necessary for a 12 week old puppy.

chelle · 01-21-2012, 08:09 PM

Went thru almost the exact same experience. Only difference is that my dog was a little older at the time, but otherwise the same. Throw a choke or prong on the dog, whether you know how to use it or not, and start jerking the dog around the ring. Bonus for me was getting yelled at personally for not doing certain things right, when I really had no idea what I was supposed to be doing. Oh yeah, it was a good time. Needless to say, we didn't return and the second class we found was much more in line with a younger dog. Keep looking! Good luck.

codmaster · 01-22-2012, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brewzer1818

Well we had our first class.... Time to look for a new trainer. Maybe it is just me but expecting to train a 12 week old puppy with nothing other than quick snap leash corrections, and an ocaisional pat on the chest is rediculous.

upon arrival, after a 10 minute puppy socialization, we went straight into a strict heel exercise. This we worked on for 30 minutes using only leash corrections, and verbal cues. Then he brought out hit protection trained GSDs to show us how well behaved they are.

If this is how he trains his puppy class, I would hate to see his obedience classes.

Don't get me wrong, I am not opposed to leash corrections, but lets work on encouraging the behavior a little first.

Anybody know of any good trainers in the Solano County area of California?

Sounds like a good move to find another trainer, esp. for your little puppy. Good luck!

Brewzer1818 · 01-22-2012, 02:01 AM

Well in doing some research, it turns out that Michael Ellis has his train the trainer academy about 20 miles from where i live. I have sent him an email to get his recommendations on a trainer in the area. I have also ordered his training video series, to help me get stated on my own. No more puppy torture for my little girl.

**MaggieRoseLee** · 01-22-2012, 07:32 AM

20 miles away! If Michael Ellis is only 20 miles away, you may want to see if you can fit into any of the classes at his facility.

I know I drive over an hour once a week to get to great agility classes. I'd rather spend the time and money on the best I can afford, then spend time and money on something that is a mess

Good luck!

01-21-2012, 01:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
Brewzer1818 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dixon, Ca. Posts: 27	Luna and i start puppy class tomorrow(Any good trainers in the Solano County, CA) We start training with Bob Vance owner/trainer of American Canine institute, in Dixon,CA. Bob has been training in obedience, aggility, schutzhund, and protection for over fifty years. His site can be seen at Welcome to American Canine Institute Any feedback would be appreciated. This is my first GSD, I work from home and am fully committed to apply the needed time on training her and myself so that she can become my everyday/everywhere companion. __________________ First time GSD owner. Luna WGSD Born 10/24/11 Doug Sutherland www.DSignGraffix.com Last edited by MaggieRoseLee; 01-22-2012 at 07:30 AM.

01-21-2012, 09:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
MaggieRoseLee The Agility Rocks! Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Bushkill, PA (The Poconos!) Posts: 22,215	Can't wait to hear how well you are both doing! Take tons of photos!!!! __________________ MACH2 Bretta Lee Wildhaus CGC TC TQX Glory B Wildhaus NA, NJ, NF + LOL (still) "*Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde*

01-21-2012, 01:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cassidy's Mom No Stinkin' Leashes Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 24,959	Wonder why they don't use any food in training? __________________ -Debbie- Dena 9/12/04-10/4/08 Forever would have been too short Keefer 8/25/05 Halo 11/9/08 Cassidy 6/8/00-10/4/04

01-21-2012, 06:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
Brewzer1818 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dixon, Ca. Posts: 27	Well we had our first class.... Time to look for a new trainer. Maybe it is just me but expecting to train a 12 week old puppy with nothing other than quick snap leash corrections, and an ocaisional pat on the chest is rediculous. upon arrival, after a 10 minute puppy socialization, we went straight into a strict heel exercise. This we worked on for 30 minutes using only leash corrections, and verbal cues. Then he brought out hit protection trained GSDs to show us how well behaved they are. If this is how he trains his puppy class, I would hate to see his obedience classes. Don't get me wrong, I am not opposed to leash corrections, but lets work on encouraging the behavior a little first. Anybody know of any good trainers in the Solano County area of California? __________________ First time GSD owner. Luna WGSD Born 10/24/11 Doug Sutherland www.DSignGraffix.com

01-21-2012, 07:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
Cassidy's Mom No Stinkin' Leashes Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 24,959	After looking at the website, I'm not at all surprised. I agree with MRL - good for you! I did a quick search of the Association of Pet Dog Trainers website, and here are a few of the hits I got that sound much more appropriate for a young puppy. Sirius has a Vallejo location, if that's not too far: Sirius Dog Training - Class Descriptions Summerwind Canines thinking dogs (.net) I also know of a great private trainer in Vallejo, but I don't think that's necessary for a 12 week old puppy. __________________ -Debbie- Dena 9/12/04-10/4/08 Forever would have been too short Keefer 8/25/05 Halo 11/9/08 Cassidy 6/8/00-10/4/04

01-21-2012, 08:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
chelle Knighted Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 2,841	Went thru almost the exact same experience. Only difference is that my dog was a little older at the time, but otherwise the same. Throw a choke or prong on the dog, whether you know how to use it or not, and start jerking the dog around the ring. Bonus for me was getting yelled at personally for not doing certain things right, when I really had no idea what I was supposed to be doing. Oh yeah, it was a good time. Needless to say, we didn't return and the second class we found was much more in line with a younger dog. Keep looking! Good luck. __________________ Dolly Eskie 6/03 Suri Shiba 10/07 Bailey WGSD/Husky x 5/11 Bailey's brother Tucker (rescue/foster dude) Tiger kitty '96 Information is power

01-22-2012, 02:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
Brewzer1818 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dixon, Ca. Posts: 27	Well in doing some research, it turns out that Michael Ellis has his train the trainer academy about 20 miles from where i live. I have sent him an email to get his recommendations on a trainer in the area. I have also ordered his training video series, to help me get stated on my own. No more puppy torture for my little girl. __________________ First time GSD owner. Luna WGSD Born 10/24/11 Doug Sutherland www.DSignGraffix.com

01-22-2012, 07:32 AM	#10 (permalink)
MaggieRoseLee The Agility Rocks! Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Bushkill, PA (The Poconos!) Posts: 22,215	20 miles away! If Michael Ellis is only 20 miles away, you may want to see if you can fit into any of the classes at his facility. I know I drive over an hour once a week to get to great agility classes. I'd rather spend the time and money on the best I can afford, then spend time and money on something that is a mess Good luck! __________________ MACH2 Bretta Lee Wildhaus CGC TC TQX Glory B Wildhaus NA, NJ, NF + LOL (still) "*Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde*

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