Basic OB classes around Cincinnati OH

[jrod]

I was wondering if anyone is from the Cincy area and has any good experiences with trainers for basic OB. We bring our little Baron Yaeger home on Saturday and I want to start looking around for classes when he gets a bit older.

My Fiancee and I were walking through Pets-Mart last night getting some last minute things and I was able to witness one of their trainers. From what I have gathered here and in all the information I have read online & in books I wasn't thrilled with what I heard. I do not believe that yelling a command at a dog has any more effect than just stating that command, or am I incorrect?

The trainer there was showing the folks how to get the puppy to stop barking by yelling the command word right as the dog stopped barking and then gave the treat. I understand the rewarding the behavior when it occurs such as giving the command when the dog does the desired behavior and then rewarding. I do not understand why the command has to be yelled/screamed at the dog. To me I would think you may frighten the dog (which is not a desired outcome) and/or annoy any family members present with the loud shouting.

Or.. should I just not let that one example shy me away from their training classes offered there? Am I over reacting so to speak?

[spiritsmom]

I am enrolling in Middletown Dog Training Club tomorrow. Queen City Dog Training is good and so is Hamilton Dog Training Club. Below is a link to more in this area:

Cincinnati Dog Obedience Trainers and Training Facilities


I did go to Cincinnati Canine Companion Center and would not recommend them. They use the old pinch collar only, correction based training methods. I'm sure they get results but that type of training is not for everyone. Definitely not for me.

[BlackPuppy]

Originally Posted by spiritsmom

I am enrolling in Middletown Dog Training Club tomorrow.

I did go to Cincinnati Canine Companion Center to observe and would not recommend them. They use the old pinch collar only, correction based training methods. I'm sure they get results but that type of training is not for everyone. Definitely not for me.

CCCC uses old style Koehler training. They get the job done, but I wouldn't recommend it either. I was there a couple of times observing. During one of my visits, a well-to-do woman came in with her rowdy Poodle-mix. At the end of the hour that I was watching, the owner/trainer had the dog happily heeling, and the dog owner was so appreciative she had tears in her eyes.

I know a vet who was not happy with Middletown Dog Training. She experienced instructors who were too heavy handed. She's okay with the agility trainers, though, just not the obedience.

I am a member of QCDTC (http://qcdtc.org), I also sometimes take classes in Clermont County at CCDTC (http://ccdtc.org). Both are good and the trainers are members who are heavily involved in obedience showing.

And if you can make it out even farther in Clermont County, I also recommend Blue Ribbon Dog Training Academy. Blue Ribbon Dog Training Academy The owners are GSD breeders and show. They also run the East Fork Schutzhund club. I go there on their Monday night drop in classes for additional training for Obedience/Rally trials. Also, the owner is an AKC obedience and rally judge.

You can base your decision on driving distance, QCDTC, CCDTC, or BRDTA.

[BlackPuppy]

You can start Puppy Kindergarten as early as 8 weeks old at QCDTC. All dogs are required to have vaccinations, and for puppy kindergarten, you must bring proof that you have started vaccinations and the puppy is under the care of a vet for future vaccinations. So, you don't need to wait, though 24 weeks is the oldest allowed for PK. Eight weeks is $95, and if you end up going there or CCDTC, you should consider becoming a member.

[BlackPuppy]

BTW, dogs have great ears. I can whisper my commands to my dogs. And if I'm inside and they are outside, all I have to do is say the word "cookie" and they come running to the door.

You are correct to stay away from PetSmart.

Also, a great place for dog food is Complete Petmart. They have a card so you get a free bag after buying 10(?) bags, plus watch for their sales. They have sales often, so time your dog food purchases. And you can bring your puppy inside with you.

Ha ha, I keep remembering things. If you go to QCDTC and become a member, there is a woman who is a vendor and can get dog food for even better prices. (I wish I would remember this myself.) Plus, the club will make large purchases from Pet Edge, and members are included if they want items at club prices.

[spiritsmom]

I had my first class at Middletown and enjoyed it. The instructor I had is a Shiloh Shepherd breeder that I hadn't met before but knew of. The class went very well. Nyxie responded well in this setting. I may take a class at Queen City when their next sessions start to see where I'd like to become a member. I personally would love to go to the Blue Ribbon one but that is just too far to drive to for me.

[BlackPuppy]

Blue Ribbon is a 40 minute drive for me. Pretty far by Cincinnati standards.

For Agility I've been taking my puppy to CCDTC. The classes are much smaller and I feel like we move along faster. The last time I took a beginners agility class at QC there were about 30 dogs in the class. But I got to say, we have some awesome agility people.

QCDTC is getting really huge. We are even planning to DOUBLE the building size!

I guess I forgot to mention the Hamilton dog training club and Kuliga (Cincinnati city). I'm not as familiar with those two. Kuliga has moved to a larger space, but it's still just a retrofit, and I avoid going into the city.

[spiritsmom]

Yeah that's why I crossed Kuliga off my list - didn't want to drive there. I think Blue Ribbon is even farther for me. About an hour and that's just a bit too far to go on a weekly basis. Makes me wish I wasn't all the way up in Middletown, but oh well. Maybe I will take my next class at Queen City. Dayton Dog TC isn't bad either and they are in Moraine which isn't that far off I-75.

[jrod]

Wow I some how lost this post. Thank you Blackpuppy and Spiritsmom for the replies!

I was also recommended a place called PAC Professional Dog Training Cincinnati dog training, obedience, dog trainers, puppy education, k9 training

Any info on these guys? I live on the West Side of Cincinnati outside the city limits.
I checked out Blue Ribbon and they would be a good 50min drive for me.

[spiritsmom]

PAC from what I can tell from reviews I have read is quite expensive. I saw somewhere that their 3 week board and train is $5300 and is nonrefundable and must be paid in full up front. I only know what I've googled about them and it seemed opinions were divided - some loved it and some said it was a waste of alot of money. They do offer that free demo class though so maybe go to that and see how you feel about the place and the people.