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Old 10-10-2009, 05:26 PM   #11 (permalink)
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This guy was great, I think. He used methods I normally wouldn't, nothing I would call harsh at all, but the results were fast. J still has a LONG way to go, but within a few minutes of this guy taking control of J, J was comfortable enough to come to the man for attention after he'd done what was asked of him... The door training was fun. Took J a few tries to realize that when the doorbell goes off, or knocking, it doesn't mean he has to go running at it, and he goes away from it now when people are knocking like crazy... The chain in a bag thing was great, IMO. It's not hurting the dog, it startled him and made him do something other than bark at the poor man, or go after the door. It isn't hitting the dog, it's hitting the ground near his feet.

The leash training was hard work for everyone, but it also caught on fast. J follows my leg and sits or stands next to it when we stop. The corrections were not harsh, it's not hurting him,. It's a collar pop, with this http://www.americaneskimodogs.org/im...g_collar_1.jpg adjusted so it's not going to choke him when it pops, it can slip over his head, they use them because they make the same noise as the chain throw bag correction.

I think the man you talked with, FlyBy, was a bit extreme.. Though this guy doesn't let his dogs or his clients dogs meet or greet without their owner letting them. THAT was hard, because J wanted to go get love from him until about the 5th time, then he caught on, until I said, "Okay, go".


It's going to be exhausting... I'm pooped. J took a nap while we filled out paper work.

We talked for about an hour I'd say, before we started actually working. He stayed for 2-2.5 hours, and this was just to get our leash and door manners worked on. We're going to get the neighbors and whomever to help us with that 3-4 times a day.

I'm happy with him, J wasn't scared, he was confused and nervous at first, but that's him in any situation. The guy said he's had worse fear aggressive dogs and they're fine now..

Well then, I'll keep you all updated. We're going to start using his dogs when J has everything else down.
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Old 10-10-2009, 09:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The collar you linked to is a martingale.
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Old 10-11-2009, 10:09 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I thought is was, but every time I think Martingale I for some reason believe they are wider...
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They come in different widths. I've seen some really wide ones too, often referred to as Greyhound collars because they're great for dogs with small heads that can slip out of a regular flat collar, like Greyhounds.

What makes it a martingale is that it's a limited slip collar - it tightens, but only to a point. They come either with a chain, like the one pictured:



Or the same material as the rest of the collar:

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Yep, that's what had me confused, I'd associated martingale with the 2nd pic.
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Old 10-11-2009, 04:55 PM   #16 (permalink)
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"traditional ' martingales are made with the chain - the sound is a marker for the dog, I wouldn't use a cloth one except as a 'normal' collar ie my dog doesn't actually need a training collar ...
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Sounds like a good first day with this trainer. I hope it continues to work well with J
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:59 PM   #18 (permalink)
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We're doing pretty good. I don't agree with "Leader goes first", especially when it's based on wolves, because their 'leaders' certainly don't go first.

Anyhoo, making J let me go first down or up stairs, into other rooms ect. has made him really pay attention to me, and making him heel while we walk or stay behind me as well. Door training is a bit more difficult, as he thinks he really ought to be the first to assess the guests, but he's getting better. Only been two days, I have three weeks before he comes back to work on distance control, and then dog aggression.
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My sister came to visit, I didn't know until yesterday she was staying. J woofed a bit but after using the techniques showed he stopped, he's been taking burger from her and even sniffed her hand without going in to a frenzied barking fit.
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good news) keep up the good work and let us know how it goes)) good luck!!
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