Taste of the Wild Puppy

[CelticGlory]

I'm not sure if anyone have seen this, just came out (note sure when), but I was looking around petfood direct yesterday and came across TOTW puppy! Taste-Of-The-Wild Puppy-Food Dog | PetFoodDirect.com, they have the prairie and fish formulas. Has anyone seen these two in the feed stores yet?

Here's the analysis:

Crude Protein 28.0% Minimum Crude Fat 17.0% Minimum Crude Fiber 5.0% Maximum Moisture 10.0% Maximum Zinc 150 mg/kg Minimum Selenium 0.4 mg/kg Minimum Vitamin E 175 IU/kg Minimum Omega-6 Fatty Acids * 2.8% Minimum Omega-3 Fatty Acids * 0.3% Minimum

Here's the adult:

Crude Protein Minimum 32.00%
Crude Fat Minimum 18.00%
Crude Fiber Maximum 3.00%
Moisture Maximum 10.00%
Sodium Maximum 0.30%
Omega-6 Fatty Acids * Minimum 2.80%
Omega-3 Fatty Acids * Minimum 0.30%

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Would the puppy formula still be considered too high in protein, fat, etc. to feed to a growing puppy?

[KZoppa]

yup. saw them in the store i'm mentoring at. They just moved to a bigger store and the store owner was all excited to have more space for more dog food. She carries both.

[PupperLove]

I wonder how the cal/phos levels compare to the regular formula? Can't look it up right now, but how cool of them to have a puppy food now! My dogs always did really well on TOTW.

[JeanKBBMMMAAN]

You need to find out the calcium levels. See the sticky post on Puppy Food in this section. The boring one without all the replies.

[CelticGlory]

Wag had it as well and an image of the back of the bag, it doesn't have the calcium %! That is so strange!

[BlackGSD]

Originally Posted by JeanKBBMMMAAN

You need to find out the calcium levels.

Pacific Stream Puppy 1.3%
High Prairie Puppy 1.4%

Both are on an "as fed" basis.

[CelticGlory]

Tracy, thank you; where did you find the information? I looked at the back of the bag (the image from wag) and couldn't find it. What does that mean though "as fed" basis?

[sunnygirl123]

We have been feeding our 9.5 week old TOTW Puppy Pacific Stream for the last week and a half. Now I'm reading more and more on the Calcium levels and I'm wondering if this is okay. The numbers BlackGSD posted for "as fed" calcium seem alright (1.3%). Did you get that from asking them?
The Orijen large puppy has "Calcium (min./max.) 1.5 % / 1.7" so this doesn't seem any better.
I know this has been talked about a lot and I have spent many hours combing through these threads but I still feel confused!

[llombardo]

Originally Posted by CelticGlory

I'm not sure if anyone have seen this, just came out (note sure when), but I was looking around petfood direct yesterday and came across TOTW puppy! Taste-Of-The-Wild Puppy-Food Dog | PetFoodDirect.com, they have the prairie and fish formulas. Has anyone seen these two in the feed stores yet?

Here's the analysis:

Crude Protein 28.0% Minimum Crude Fat 17.0% Minimum Crude Fiber 5.0% Maximum Moisture 10.0% Maximum Zinc 150 mg/kg Minimum Selenium 0.4 mg/kg Minimum Vitamin E 175 IU/kg Minimum Omega-6 Fatty Acids * 2.8% Minimum Omega-3 Fatty Acids * 0.3% Minimum

Here's the adult:

Crude Protein Minimum 32.00%
Crude Fat Minimum 18.00%
Crude Fiber Maximum 3.00%
Moisture Maximum 10.00%
Sodium Maximum 0.30%
Omega-6 Fatty Acids * Minimum 2.80%
Omega-3 Fatty Acids * Minimum 0.30%

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Would the puppy formula still be considered too high in protein, fat, etc. to feed to a growing puppy?

I was thinking of switching my dogs to this food, but I'm looking at the ingredients and I still think what I'm using now might still be a tad bit better...Let me know PLEASE

Adult
Crude Protein (min.) 23.00%
Crude Fat (min.) 12.00%
Crude Fiber (max.) 3.50%
Moisture (max.) 10.00%
Calcium (min.) 1.50%
Phosphorus (min.) 1.10%
Vitamin A (min.) 22,000 IU/kg
Vitamin E (min.) 165 IU/kg
Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) (min.) 30 mg/kg
Omega 6 Fatty Acids* (min.) 2.30%
Omega 3 Fatty Acids* (min.) 0.55%
Glucosamine Hydrochloride (min.) 340 mg/kg
Total Lactic Acid Microorganisms* (min.) 70,000,000 CFU/lb


Puppy
Crude Protein (min.) 28.00%
Crude Fat (min.) 17.00%
Crude Fiber (max.) 3.50%
Moisture (max.) 10.00%
Calcium (min.) 1.30%
Phosphorus (min.) 1.00%
Vitamin A (min.) 22,000 IU/kg
Vitamin E (min.) 165 IU/kg
Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C)* (min.) 30 mg/kg
Docosahexaenoic Acid (DHA)* (min.) 0.10%
Omega 6 Fatty Acids* (min.) 2.10%
Omega 3 Fatty Acids* (min.) 0.65%
Total Lactic Acid Microorganisms* (min.) 100,000,000 CFU/lb

Puppy Large Breed
Crude Protein (min.) 23.00%
Crude Fat (min.) 12.00%
Crude Fiber (max.) 3.50%
Moisture (max.) 10.00%
Calcium (min.) 1.50%
Phosphorus (min.) 1.00%
Vitamin A (min.) 22,000 IU/kg
Vitamin E (min.) 165 IU/kg
Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C)* (min.) 30 mg/kg
Beta-Carotene* (min.) 5 mg/kg
Docosahexaenoic Acid (DHA)* (min.) 0.10%
Omega 6 Fatty Acids* (min.) 2.10%
Omega 3 Fatty Acids* (min.) 0.65%
Total Lactic Acid Micro-organisms* (min.) 100,000,000 CFU/lb

[Lakl]

I don't like the 1.5/1.0 calcium/phosphorus ratio in the large breed puppy. I did some research into this when my pup was going through his issues. I read the ratio between the two was more important that just the level of calcium and should be closer to 1.0/1.0. I read that 1.2/1.0 is generally where you want to be at.