New TOTW Puppy formulas.

BlackGSD · 10-30-2011, 12:16 PM

Just saw that they now have puppy formulas of High Prairie and Pacific Stream. Of course the website doesn't mention the calcium levels. Might just have to ask them.

Rott-n-GSDs · 10-31-2011, 10:55 AM

Yup, I noticed.

They are nearly identical to the adult formulas. There are a few ingredients that are switched around, and the protein levels are lower in the puppy formula (although they didn't need to be lower). They also mention that the kibble size is smaller, which I find to be alarming because the TOTW kibble size is already pretty small.

Oh, and guess what? They're more expensive. Imagine that?

Let me know if you hear back from TOTW on ca/ph levels.

4TheDawgies · 10-31-2011, 11:27 AM

I second what Rott-N-GSDS said, let us know what you find out about the ca/ph levels and ratios.

I find it bizarre they made a puppy food when all of their formulas are "all life stages"

It was unnecessary, but my gosh seeing the "puppy formula" on a bag really sucks people in. I work at a dog & horse supply store where we sell food. I cannot even count how many people just buy a dog food because it had their dog on the bag, or it says puppy food and they have a puppy.

sable123 · 10-31-2011, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 4TheDawgies

I second what Rott-N-GSDS said, let us know what you find out about the ca/ph levels and ratios.

I find it bizarre they made a puppy food when all of their formulas are "all life stages"

It was unnecessary, but my gosh seeing the "puppy formula" on a bag really sucks people in. I work at a dog & horse supply store where we sell food. I cannot even count how many people just buy a dog food because it had their dog on the bag, or it says puppy food and they have a puppy.

This is how Diamond works, or rather Schell & Kampeter, Inc. 10 million formulas virtually all the same, and all low quality. First in price-point marketing, private labels and last in quality.

Jax08 · 10-31-2011, 01:40 PM

I fed TOTW for awhile and Jax would go through bags that she just wouldn't eat. A friend had the same problem when her dogs just refused to touch it. I always felt it was a problem with consistency and quality.

Rott-n-GSDs · 10-31-2011, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jax08

I fed TOTW for awhile and Jax would go through bags that she just wouldn't eat. A friend had the same problem when her dogs just refused to touch it. I always felt it was a problem with consistency and quality.

There were actual "unofficial recalls" associated with the issue. You're probably lucky Jax wouldn't eat it: those that did eat the "bad" bags got severe diarrhea and vomiting.

TOTW only would say that there was an "alternate protein source" that somehow made its way into some of the batches, or that there was "too much protein" in some of the bags. They wouldn't elaborate when asked what protein source.

sable123 · 10-31-2011, 02:42 PM

I have also wondered why there is roasted meat in these formulas, it is possible they are of such bad quality that they can't be delivered to the factory unless they are sterilized. Who knows.

MustLoveGSDs · 10-31-2011, 02:44 PM

I don't understand why so many people hail TOTW when Diamond manufacturing is the king of recalls?

Rott-n-GSDs · 10-31-2011, 02:47 PM

It's cheap and grain free... 'nuff said.

sable123 · 10-31-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rott-n-GSDs

It's cheap and grain free... 'nuff said.

So are you saying most people are, well, not too bright?

10-30-2011, 12:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
BlackGSD Crowned Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Eastern Washington Posts: 7,795	New TOTW Puppy formulas. Just saw that they now have puppy formulas of High Prairie and Pacific Stream. Of course the website doesn't mention the calcium levels. Might just have to ask them. __________________ Tracy Siren vom Banach { Sable female GSD 3-20-08} R.I.P. Wrangler male ACD/Aussie mix. 9-29-99 to8-29-11.

10-31-2011, 10:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
Rott-n-GSDs Master Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: South Range, WI Posts: 999	Yup, I noticed. They are nearly identical to the adult formulas. There are a few ingredients that are switched around, and the protein levels are lower in the puppy formula (although they didn't need to be lower). They also mention that the kibble size is smaller, which I find to be alarming because the TOTW kibble size is already pretty small. Oh, and guess what? They're more expensive. Imagine that? Let me know if you hear back from TOTW on ca/ph levels. __________________ Luna, GSD (11/22/08) Nova, GSD (07/01/07) Apollo, Rottweiler (06/28/08)

10-31-2011, 11:27 AM	#3 (permalink)
4TheDawgies Master Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: KS Posts: 746	I second what Rott-N-GSDS said, let us know what you find out about the ca/ph levels and ratios. I find it bizarre they made a puppy food when all of their formulas are "all life stages" It was unnecessary, but my gosh seeing the "puppy formula" on a bag really sucks people in. I work at a dog & horse supply store where we sell food. I cannot even count how many people just buy a dog food because it had their dog on the bag, or it says puppy food and they have a puppy. __________________ "For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear."

10-31-2011, 02:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
MustLoveGSDs Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston,TX Posts: 1,381	I don't understand why so many people hail TOTW when Diamond manufacturing is the king of recalls? __________________ http://www.secondchanceshepherds.org/index.html "If you don't train them, don't blame them" Zelda(husky), Optimus Prime(doberman),Rogue(BGSD)

10-31-2011, 02:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
Rott-n-GSDs Master Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: South Range, WI Posts: 999	It's cheap and grain free... 'nuff said. __________________ Luna, GSD (11/22/08) Nova, GSD (07/01/07) Apollo, Rottweiler (06/28/08)

10-31-2011, 01:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jax08 Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NNE PA Posts: 14,329	I fed TOTW for awhile and Jax would go through bags that she just wouldn't eat. A friend had the same problem when her dogs just refused to touch it. I always felt it was a problem with consistency and quality.

10-31-2011, 02:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
sable123 Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,233	I have also wondered why there is roasted meat in these formulas, it is possible they are of such bad quality that they can't be delivered to the factory unless they are sterilized. Who knows.

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