How big of a mistake?

Alois · 07-12-2011, 01:09 PM

Our two puppies were born Dec 30 and the other Jan 2nd. They have been on Wellness Super mix 5 mixed in with Diamond Naturals (large dog puppy) I just had my wife check the Diamond Naturals and she says that the calcium numbers on the back are 1.2%

I had never known what percentages were bad or good for puppies until today when I started looking around the forum. I knew high calcium diets were bad for them but never knew the exact numbers

ugh...

fuzzybunny · 07-12-2011, 01:39 PM

I'm confused because in the Blue Buffalo thread I thought people were saying 1.2% was good.

LuvourGSDs · 07-12-2011, 01:51 PM

From what I have recently read & understand, you really don't want much more than 1.2%, but some good foods are a bit more, seen 1.4% & 1.6%. I started a post & sure wish it would be made a sticky.

Alois · 07-12-2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzybunny

I'm confused because in the Blue Buffalo thread I thought people were saying 1.2% was good.

I'm not 100% sure myself. Seems like you wanna go no higher than 1.2 but still not sure. Then I keep reading all these HIGHLY recommended foods but the calcium content is higher than 1.2?? For example Orijen.

Also, since everyone loves Blue Buffalo... Which one? They make all types of Blue Buffalo. Chicken, salmon....

fuzzybunny · 07-12-2011, 01:56 PM

If your dog is doing well on it's current food then don't fix what ain't broken. JMO.

Alois · 07-12-2011, 02:00 PM

I need to switch either way because the Wellness Super mix 5 is giving them a very loose stool. To the point that we can only feed them it every 2 or 3 days.

Lilie · 07-12-2011, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Alois

I need to switch either way because the Wellness Super mix 5 is giving them a very loose stool. To the point that we can only feed them it every 2 or 3 days.

You do know that switching food back and forth can cause loose stools too.....

selzer · 07-12-2011, 02:09 PM

I think you want the calcium and the phosphorus to be in the right ratio. You do not want to overdo calcium which most puppy foods do. If you go with a large breed puppy food, you should be ok. When you start mixing things together, then you have to pay even more attention to specifics.

Alois · 07-12-2011, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lilie

You do know that switching food back and forth can cause loose stools too.....

Orginonally they were just on Wellness Super Mix 5 and had a loose stool. We were told it had too much oils in it so we started doing half and half (Diamond Naturals) and that worked. Here lately, regardless...the Wellness is just too much (oils)

Bought a bag of Merrick Wilderness. It JUST came in the mail and the calcium content is not even listed. arrrrgh!

neiltus · 07-12-2011, 06:35 PM

Want to know whats really bad?

Your freaking out over something you don't understand.

IT'S NOT FREAKING 1.2% calcium as a total % of the food. It is 1.2-2.0 Ca to Phosphorus ratio.

Thousands of GSD owners feed their dogs low Ca foods thinking they are doing good and treat string cheese.

If your dog is going to have bad hips, feeding it the lowest % Ca food will not do a **** thing.

Really.....really...get a grip already...stop buying random foods and freaking out about it.

Pick one, feed in moderation (less than what the package says)...

Wellness LBP is good, I know a ton of dogs on this.
I use Nature's Variety chicken prairie.... I also give raw too...
I have a senior on Orijen (only food she likes).
My aunt has her pups on Merrick Puppy something or other....

Your better off worrying about the pup gaining weight too fast by overfeeding than worrying about some ca % on the package. It's not like hips are ok with 1.1999999999% and go to crap at 1.212121212%

Take a pill already!

07-12-2011, 01:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
Alois Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Elgin TX Posts: 93	How big of a mistake? Our two puppies were born Dec 30 and the other Jan 2nd. They have been on Wellness Super mix 5 mixed in with Diamond Naturals (large dog puppy) I just had my wife check the Diamond Naturals and she says that the calcium numbers on the back are 1.2% I had never known what percentages were bad or good for puppies until today when I started looking around the forum. I knew high calcium diets were bad for them but never knew the exact numbers ugh...

07-12-2011, 01:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
fuzzybunny Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Ottawa Posts: 1,822	I'm confused because in the Blue Buffalo thread I thought people were saying 1.2% was good. __________________ Carolyn Jazz, Shiloh Shepherd, 2.5 years old, CGC HIC Bunny, GSD X, 5.5 years old

07-12-2011, 01:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
LuvourGSDs Crowned Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: OH Posts: 5,578	From what I have recently read & understand, you really don't want much more than 1.2%, but some good foods are a bit more, seen 1.4% & 1.6%. I started a post & sure wish it would be made a sticky. __________________ ~Jen~ Sable~ GSD 7 yrs. NJP, OJP, NAP, NAJ, NA, TN-N, NAC, NJC, CGC Shadow~ BGSD Adopted 6 yrs. RN, CGC Storm~ GSD 5 yrs. RA, TN-N, CGC Skyrah~ GSD Fun Sable Puppy "Money will buy you a pretty good dog, but it won't buy the wag of his tail."

07-12-2011, 01:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
fuzzybunny Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Ottawa Posts: 1,822	If your dog is doing well on it's current food then don't fix what ain't broken. JMO. __________________ Carolyn Jazz, Shiloh Shepherd, 2.5 years old, CGC HIC Bunny, GSD X, 5.5 years old

07-12-2011, 02:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
selzer Crowned Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denmark, Ohio Posts: 17,499	I think you want the calcium and the phosphorus to be in the right ratio. You do not want to overdo calcium which most puppy foods do. If you go with a large breed puppy food, you should be ok. When you start mixing things together, then you have to pay even more attention to specifics. __________________ RIP Arwen, CD RN CGC RIP Whitney, RN CGC Jenna, RN CGC Babs, CD RA CGC Herding Instinct Certificate Heidi, RA CGC Tori, RN CGC SG3 Odessa, SchH1, Kkl1, AD Ninja, RN CGC Milla, RN CGC Joy, Star Puppy, RN CGC Dolly & Bear

07-12-2011, 02:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
Alois Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Elgin TX Posts: 93	I need to switch either way because the Wellness Super mix 5 is giving them a very loose stool. To the point that we can only feed them it every 2 or 3 days.

07-12-2011, 06:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
neiltus Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 233	Want to know whats really bad? Your freaking out over something you don't understand. IT'S NOT FREAKING 1.2% calcium as a total % of the food. It is 1.2-2.0 Ca to Phosphorus ratio. Thousands of GSD owners feed their dogs low Ca foods thinking they are doing good and treat string cheese. If your dog is going to have bad hips, feeding it the lowest % Ca food will not do a **** thing. Really.....really...get a grip already...stop buying random foods and freaking out about it. Pick one, feed in moderation (less than what the package says)... Wellness LBP is good, I know a ton of dogs on this. I use Nature's Variety chicken prairie.... I also give raw too... I have a senior on Orijen (only food she likes). My aunt has her pups on Merrick Puppy something or other.... Your better off worrying about the pup gaining weight too fast by overfeeding than worrying about some ca % on the package. It's not like hips are ok with 1.1999999999% and go to crap at 1.212121212% Take a pill already!

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