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Blitzkrieg1 03-24-2014 03:18 PM

Awesome Guard Dogs
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXR_CYKcyr4

Very instructive video for the many who think their untrained dog will protect them because they bark and act tough.

This is why having the RIGHT drives, training and temperment in a GSD are so important. Otherwise you end up with the weaknes all 3 of those dogs represented.

The Mal was an embarrassment.

Gretchen 03-24-2014 03:25 PM

I would like to see how a female Mal or GSD would react. All these dogs are male.

Blitzkrieg1 03-24-2014 03:28 PM

Sex isnt the issue..

Zlata 03-24-2014 03:28 PM

What kind of criminal breaks in with a bite sleeve? LOL. I don't expect my dog to bite. I expect him to bark/alert me... I can take care of the rest. ;)

Blitzkrieg1 03-24-2014 03:39 PM

The bite sleeve is easier to bite for most dogs then the person himself so it was actually easier then a real break in would be. He would probably have used the sleeve to block an attack.
The decoy put next to no pressure on the dogs. The uncertain and fearful behavior the dogs displayed is an example of poor genetics.
There are many who truly believe their dog will protect them, this type of test is a good learning experience for those with that belief.

Blitzkrieg1 03-24-2014 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zlata (Post 5259618)
What kind of criminal breaks in with a bite sleeve? LOL. I don't expect my dog to bite. I expect him to bark/alert me... I can take care of the rest. ;)

We are talking about dogs expected to Guard the house and defend against intruders, not dogs that just bark.
There are plenty of ankle biter dogs that will "alert" you all day long that is not applicable to tis discussion.

Mikelia 03-24-2014 03:45 PM

I know a few people who should see this, maybe I should make some cds and start handing them out haha.
My only concern is for dogs that are already bite trained - they are going to see the sleeve and know what to do. What if someone broke into a house with a 'professionally trained guard dog' and was wearing a hidden sleeve? I would love to see a test like that. That mal only half bit because it's owner told it to and it recognized the sleeve. Then it took off up the stairs.

Zlata 03-24-2014 03:46 PM

You say it's an instructive video but the method that they use to test the 'guard dogs' is pretty flawed, IMHO. I will agree with you, however, that most dogs will not randomly attack an intruder.

Gwenhwyfair 03-24-2014 03:47 PM

bad genetics?

Only if those folks went to breeders that specifically bred proven protection dogs and got a dog that wouldn't or couldn't do the job.

Most 'oversize' German Shepherds come from breeders who don't compete or test their breeding stock in any way for example. In fact a lot of them seem to breed for easy going, laid back dogs.

So, I wouldn't call it bad genetics in this case I would just say the owners didn't do their research.....

The 'good' genetics are out there for those willing to put in the time and effort to research and put in the necessary training.

Lucy Dog 03-24-2014 03:51 PM

I'd like to see a video of someone doing this with trained IPO dogs going in without a sleeve. Just some kind of bite suit covered up with clothes that looks like a regular person to see how they react.


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