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I think the video is pretty useless.........I am not going to rely on a dog for protection but every last dog there is biting a sleeve and probaly the kids father who owns the training school, not a "stranger"--the last dog is probably the family pet going WTF?
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I'm not saying it's accurate - just found it interesting. Like the 3 dogs who were trained looked confident before the guy even approached, then the 3 who weren't looked unsure, then petrified when the 'perpetrator' approached.
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True, but he did not approach the trained dogs the same way. He came at them with the sleeve being presented. The kid was in no way threatened when he used the "trained" dogs - he just came to the dog with the sleeve and it was only a game.
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give that report a fail ---
First, the group that were trained and could "protect" were approached with a lot of over the top theatre to prompt attention. First dog was average club sport , third dog Elvis looked like he had left the building. The only one that looked like he had something going on was number two Koda dog. If you are going to demonstrate a comparison you have to make sure that both sides are as similar as possible , in this case the missing element being training . They paired the ages of the dogs , not the natural temperament. The second group , starts with a nose flicking dog . The agitator work is 180 degrees different. But no , matter , this entire sampling of dogs was terribly shy . In my opinioning it would be unfair and just wrong to take these 3 into training which requires defense or aggression. Do it and you have a shy dog with permission and experience to alleviate stress through aggression and that is unstable . They all wanted to get out of there . That was there natural response. The decoy work was vastly modified ,with the addition of speach . Had they been approached with the real b movie bad guy moves they might have crawled under the truck . Obiviously some family member owns the training facility and the video is skewed to a conclusion which promotes to get your dog trained if you want it to protect. good on the girl though, confident , good presentation, might be a good handler one day. Carmen Carmspack Working German Shepherd Dogs |
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I think I'm going to create a video of my own and title it "Will my un-manned weapon protect me?" I'll start it out with a .44 Ruger laying on my night stand. Then I'll have some thug looking folks break into my bed room. We'll see if my Ruger will jump up and fire off a few rounds while I watch Wheel of Fortune on T.V.
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Did she own the dogs and the dogs familiar with her or did she pick up the leash of some random dog she had never met before? I don't see a dog possibly putting its life on the line to protect a random stranger. Even the "trained dogs" seemed to be making more a of a game of the situation and only biting the sleeve, rather than full on attack. Further, she wasn't scared by the "stranger" and stood passively by as he approached her. Don't we socialize our dogs to avoid them attacking and being aggressive to random strangers? Why would you want a pet dog acting aggressively toward someone who might be an uncle or friend picking her up? If she experienced some actual fear I would expect the dog to act differently.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was a shameless plug for her father's training business.
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There was one decent dog in that video, the 2nd one. I felt sorry for the 2nd group. Didn't have anything in the tank anyway and probably lived with they guy, now he's acting all big and mean.
The scenerios weren't the same that's for sure, even if they were, the 2nd group wasn't very capable in the first place. |
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