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Old 07-01-2014, 11:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey everyone! I had a huge scare today. First let me say my backyard is fenced off with 8 foot cement brick walls except for the back of it, instead there is a not steep 8-9 foot hill that then leads down to a busy street. I saw my girl, Baylee, outside and then turned to my computer for a second, and the second I looked back she was not in my sight. I naturally went outside and called her name as my backyard has many places to hide and is pretty spacious. I got no response. I instantly sent out the SWAT team (my family) to search for her, and I went out to the backyard and climbed the hill and called her and she came running up the backside of the hill. I sure was scared. So, getting to the point (I ramble!), my family can not really afford to have a huge sturdy fence put in on the hill, and so I am wondering if an invisible fence or shock collar may be a temporary solution. I personally am against negative reinforcement, and doing any kind of harm to a dog to train them, but I am wondering if any has experience with a shock collar? And how does an invisible fence exactly work? Are they expensive? Are they a good solution for this? Any help is appreciated! Thank you!
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Old 07-01-2014, 11:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Cheapest solution...go outside and watch your dog.
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Old 07-01-2014, 11:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Cheapest solution...go outside and watch your dog.
Well there is that! But I'll add:

A long leash lots of time and "corrections" will work but it's not going to be quick.

A short section of E fencing and training should work but a high drive dog could blast through the E fence with enough motivation.

Or a trainer and an E collar would be the quickest route.

Your problem is distance an E collar gives correction at a distance, but it takes training and time to understand it's proper use!

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Old 07-02-2014, 12:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Cheapest solution...go outside and watch your dog.
That was very rude and sarcastic of you. She is primarily an outdoor dog, and I have school and can not view her 24/7, and I make sure someone watches her all the time, so if I one time look away, my bad, but that comment was unhelpful a waste of a post.
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My neighbour has just invested in an invisible fence.

Basically, they have a collie who literally climbs the fence and wanders around the street. I blame it on him being bored and not getting enough exercise, because he just gets shut in the yard all day.

Anyway, how it works is based on proximity. They have an outside line around the border of their existing fence, and a collar on the dog. When he gets close to the proximity fence he gets a low shock encouraging him to move away from the fence.

The only problem they have now is that he could just run and jump the proximity wire, get the low shock and its done with, so not the most effective option.

Have you thought about getting a kennel, or doing more time with your dog in training and exercise so the dog doesn't feel the need to go out and explore?
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That was very rude and sarcastic of you. She is primarily an outdoor dog, and I have school and can not view her 24/7, and I make sure someone watches her all the time, so if I one time look away, my bad, but that comment was unhelpful a waste of a post.
I'm going to second that opinion. There is no chance I would leave a dog unattended in a yard that it could just walk out of.

If she is primarily an outdoor dog, you need to provide for her safety, and that means being 100% sure that she is confined to the back yard.
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I worked with my dog from the day I got him teaching him to stay in the yard-I live on 20 acres and a barb-wire fence won't keep a dog in and it can be a matter of life and death in my area when a dog trespasses-its a shoot to kill area even if they are not a threat to anyone/thing.

Repetitive commands along with physical correction and lots of rewards and he will not cross a fence or walk over the threshold at the driveway entrance-not even to chase a rabbit, another dog etc......I have trained every dog I have owned like this and have never lost one due to leaving the property. I do have to re-enforce this on a regular basis just as you do with many other behaviors/commands.

My shepherd is mainly an indoor dog and he will ask to go out and I don't always go with him on some occasions and I feel confident that he is within whistling distance as well as within the property line.

The people I got my shepherd from used one of the invisible fence around the 5acres with their 3 dogs and they seemed to like it and the dogs rarely got out-The one they had ran off mainly solar power so loss of electric was never an issue.
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Cheapest solution...go outside and watch your dog.
Agreed ( I don't see this as sarcastic but more realistic/common sense) and if you can't because you are inside, take the dog inside with you.
This "technique" has worked well for me and the dogs (none were shot or killed by cars) for about 30 years.
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I should add.....if I lived in town...my dog would never be outside in an un-fenced yard unsupervised ever....too many bad things could happen..from being hit by a car, lost, stolen or attack and/or kill another animal or worse a person/child....All part of being a responsible pet owner IMO-keeping your pet and public safe.....
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There are fencing options that provide a physical barrier and are cheaper than an e-fence.
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