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Old 04-21-2014, 10:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've been looking around at getting a harness for my dog and this one caught my eye:
https://www.rayallen.com/product/Mul...arness-systems

Matching collar:
https://www.rayallen.com/product/Mul...on-dog-collars

This seems like quality stuff. The harness caught my eye because I want to begin teaching my dog how to do certain tasks and hopefully get him into some sports as well. I'm not familiar with the organized dog events in my area, so I want to begin with something that I can do on my own or with my family.

I began teaching my dog how to track throughout my yard. This is about a 2 acre area. I would like to take him to larger places and I though that the linked harness might be helpful. Every time I go out with him I have a backpack on that has 105 feet of connected leashes, several toys, treats, poop bags, about a half gallon of water, water bowl, towel, a few locks so I can lock myself and my dog into a local baseball diamond, and a few other knick knacks (night time collar lights, etc). I though it might be helpful to make the dog carry a few things. Would the extra weight help him burn a bit more energy?

Please, if you have any input or recommendations, I'd love to hear them all. My dog is a 2 and a half year old male GSD with seemingly limitless energy and he seems to have a real talent at tracking. I can't wait to actually get into it for real.
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I have this harness and like it though my goal is not to have the dog carry stuff. Though I don't tend to carry all the stuff that you do. It has places for Molle attachments though I am just using it for working my dog onlead because I like the position of the D ring and the way it works as a non restrictive harness, and lifting him short distances when needed. It is basically the same design with some mods.

https://www.rayallen.com/product/Mod...arness-systems
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks for the input! I've been reading around the forums and I noticed a post you made about doing cadaver work. I know very little about work and service dogs. Would you be able show me the tip of the iceberg of the working dog world? Just names of some jobs that I could possibly get my dog into? It would be very much appreciated.
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Old 04-22-2014, 12:04 AM   #4 (permalink)
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On a previous post on this forum I found these:
MK VII Tactical K9 Harness - Medium - K-9

MK VII Sport K9 Harness - Medium
(From my understanding, this one has 'cheaper' clips)

Proioxis K9 Collar - Accessories - K-9

30-Foot Braided Nylon K9 Tracking Lead - Accessories - K-9

This is like an entirely different world to me. I've never hear of cobra, raptor, or kong from clips before. I assume these more expensive clips offer more durability and functionality?
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Different clips have different ratings. If you are roping or jumping with a dog, you need the appropriate load rated clips.

Honestly, I would just get a harness and see what you like / don't like about it. I have several and use them with different dogs in different applications. I wouldn't break the bank on cobra clips and a jump rated harness unless you have reason to.

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Forgive me, but I'm not familiar with some of the terminology that you used. What does it mean if you're roping your dog? I sort of have an idea on the "jumping", but would you be able to give an example? I can't think of any jumping that would require a really strong clip.
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Sorry:
Roping is rappelling out of a helicopter or down a wall, or fast roping out of a helicopter. Jumping is parachuting.
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Jesus Christ, I didn't even know that was a thing.
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Old 04-22-2014, 02:27 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Most of those harnesses are sold to military and LE. Most people don't rappel with their dogs recreationally.

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RE-leads. When I was tracking I was perfectly happy with a piece of tubular nylon tied to a clip .. I have a 20 foot light biothane lead for working with my cadaver dog because I like biothane and it is easy to decontaminate.

I bought this harness because I wanted to be able to lift my dog with it short distances and felt it was up to the job. (If he fell off a boat while working) AND I liked the more rear position of the D ring for working with him.

There are all kind of harnesses out there. This is a tracking harness a lot of SAR folks like but I just wanted a bit longer for using a harness for cadaver work (as the line is looser when you are casting a dog about and he was getting his legs caugt in it)
Tracking Harness/Fly Dog Harness (tm)

For hiking and load bearing Ruffwear makes a lot of nice stuff. I used one of their harnesses for a while and decided I wanted a clip further to the rear and wider straps. Only reason I changed. They are very comfortable for the dogs.
Ruffwear Dog Packs

The main complaint I have heard about the harness I have is shifting around under load. Since I am the one doing the carrying, that is not an issue for me.

Agree with David......Try stuff and use what you like. You will probably wind up with a box of harnesses . Some of mind winds up as loaners to teammates to see what they like. I had the Ruffwear harness as a loaner from someone else.
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