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An Article on Collars - very worthwhile!!

Prong Collar Info

This is a very very good article. While working at the vet school at Univ of Pennsylvania, Bonnie Dazall was a grad student in the Anatomy Dept, where I worked. She was a top breeder of Borzoi's and was a terrific artist - I still have a sketch of a unicorn she drew for me. The section she read should be taken to heart - it outlines the damages done by haltis and chain chokes....there is also a comment on a study done in Germany.

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Great article. Thanks for sharing it.
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Glad you posted this. I have always been a fan of martingdales (sp??) But recently got a prong collar for myrecent rescue due to leash reactivity. Not meant to anything but a short term tool while working on redirection, exposure etc. but this makes me second guess using it at all
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Thank you for posting that. I will say right off the bat I'm a fan of the prong and that's never been a secret here, lol. But I'm convinced that I saved my pup from serious injury by switching him off his flat collar and onto a prong when he was large enough to put incredible pressure on his neck when he pulled. I know, it was his lack of training that did it, but I was more concerned with fresh air and exercise than anything else at the time.
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Matthew - this article supports the use of a prong collar....!!!! And not of a choke or a head collar....why would it make you second guess and not use a prong?

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This article is unsibstantiated, most of what's in it and especially the 'German autopsy' rubbish is pure myth and urban legend. I wouldn't pay this article much attention.
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What would be the different levels of correction collars?
My dog is 2 and a half and I'm still working on his pulling. Since he was a puppy he's been in a martingale collar, which he broke from all the pulling, and EZ walker harness, which he broke from pulling, a second martingale collar which is missing somewhere but still didn't work, a flat collar which he broke, and most recently the Cesar Milan Illusion Collar which is a fabric choke that sits high on the neck. From what I took away from that article, unrestricted chokes should be avoided if you have a dog that pulls regularly? Would that mean that the next step for me would be to buy a prong collar?

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no - it would be take some training classes and teach the dog to walk properly on a leash.....

I have a dog trained to sch3 and don't need a prong...I have a young one I am training and use it because ***I*** have a walking impairment after a bad wreck...but he is being trained and will eventually be capable of walking without a leash at all....a dog 2.5 years old should be trained, not walked with tools to make him behave...pulling can be fixed pretty easily with redirection (which some would call compulsion.... with any SAFE collar)

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no - it would be take some training classes and teach the dog to walk properly on a leash.....

I have a dog trained to sch3 and don't need a prong...I have a young one I am training and use it because ***I*** have a walking impairment after a bad wreck...but he is being trained and will eventually be capable of walking without a leash at all....a dog 2.5 years old should be trained, not walked with tools to make him behave...pulling can be fixed pretty easily with redirection (which some would call compulsion.... with any SAFE collar)

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When you say redirection, I assume that you mean changing the direction that you're walking in frequently so that the dog has to pay attention to you. I've tried that, but he just darts in any direction I turn to. It feels like I'm not making progress. I've stuck with it for quite some time.

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again - you seem to be just treading water and could benefit from some one on one guidance....reading posts can only help you so much....I would get some classes at an obedience club (ie - NOT petsmart!) or IPO club....or find a trainer who does compete and understands GSDs

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