LOL. No not a problem, It was a BullMastiff/Pit mix I used it on (badly).
The only thing I did right with the prong is “never” using in for anything other than walks! Everything else he was stellar and he could walk "off leash" just fine! But put the prong on him and it was "go time"!
He couldn't drag "me" down the street but I don't have photos of children or little old ladies walking him either, no one could walk him but me!
I did it wrong (the prong) with him from day one he passed in 2010, but for “ten years” he resisted my amateurish attempts at using a prong!
When I got into Boxers I started to change approaches, my first Boxer/Pitt ,I told him one time to SIT!!! he sat then looked up at me like he was going to cry! He was a great dog and learned quickly.
That's when I realized that if I'm not getting the results I want with my dog then the problem is with me and not the dog! Never used it again on another dog, except,,like an idiot on Gunther!!!
Got a Boxer never used ( won't even think of putting a prong on her) and taught her to walk beautifully with a flat leash and collar.
Hence for me prongs are bad??
Then finally I saw this:
That's when I realized..."Oh my god, I am an idiot!!!"
Sadly it was to late for Gunther. But I now fully understood what a moron I had been! I was JQP. I half read a book and figured, I knew what I was doing! My dog was telling me "NO YOU DON'T" but I wasn't listening!
Now I understand, it's not the tool it's the end user! It scares the crap out of me when newbies are told to grab a prong to fix their dog! And told Nothing about it's proper use!
Pretty much what I drew from my experience...is that “any tool improperly used can be abused!”
Hence for me a flat collar and leash for training ,and a new mind set...if I can't the job done with regular tools then ”I think ...what am I doing wrong?? Not what's wrong with this stupid dog???”
Then the pros get upset because a useful tool is being slandered and skilled armatures get bent of shape because they seem to think “if I can do it anybody can!”
Nobody every seems to mention “The proper use of a Prong collar?” It alway seems to be, Prong... Pro or Con?”
That's pretty much it.