what are good alternatives for a prong collar?

Phoebes · 02-02-2013, 02:54 PM

I'd like to follow a recommendation to give my dog a break from using a prong collar, and would like to get some suggestions on what might have the best chance of working out.

My boy has his moments where he's good but he gets distracted easy and gets pretty rowdy. He's a 9 months and 75lbs GSD. He has his moments where he lunges forward and pulls like crazy. Different things set him off, it could be a dog, it could be a leaf... and sometimes he jumps on people, like my mom. He jumps on her repeatedly like a crazy ninja pup, I think trying to get her to play but he really needs to learn thats not ok. I need to work on his attention, his focus... There's a lot I need to work on, it's a long daunting list, so I need to get my hands on better tools.

I've been told to try a martingale and I was looking at the easy walk harness and the gentle leader headcollar online.

He will pull even with the prong, sometimes he ignores it's on, though it may be that the way his ex-trainer fit it was wrong, she left it on pretty loose.

My guess is he'll ignore the martingale (because he will sometimes ignore the prong) so I'm leaning on the easy walk and would like to hear what you guys think or if there's some cons or if it could cause harm to my pup in anyway that I should look into anything else.

**gsdraven** · 02-02-2013, 03:11 PM

I would go with the martingale and easy walk together to give you more control if he really does lunge and pull that much.

With a martingale, you can hook your leash to both the martingale and the front hook on the easy walk. He would feel most of the pressure on his neck which will help move toward getting off the easy walk but the added control have the easy walk controlling his front end.

Jag · 02-02-2013, 03:16 PM

Please don't put a head collar on a dog that's acting like that. It could damage his neck. Take some links out of your prong to make it fit snugly. I also use a martingale, but ONLY when he's not acting like a fool. I think the main problem is you've never been using the prong correctly, so you've never really seen the benefits of it.

**gsdraven** · 02-02-2013, 03:27 PM

Jag, you were one of the ones who suggested in the OP's other thread to give the prong collar a break. The OP needs to focus on rebuilding the trust between themself and their dog and right now, the corrections will not do that since an inappropriate prong correction is what caused the issue to begin with.

Phoebes · 02-02-2013, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jag

Please don't put a head collar on a dog that's acting like that. It could damage his neck. Take some links out of your prong to make it fit snugly. I also use a martingale, but ONLY when he's not acting like a fool. I think the main problem is you've never been using the prong correctly, so you've never really seen the benefits of it.

I thought so. I've seen it on dogs often and I read what the package says but kept picturing it on and didn't like the idea of it.
I'll get help on how to fit this thing right, maybe that'll do it...

Phoebes · 02-02-2013, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsdraven

Jag, you were one of the ones who suggested in the OP's other thread to give the prong collar a break. The OP needs to focus on rebuilding the trust between themself and their dog and right now, the corrections will not do that since an inappropriate prong correction is what caused the issue to begin with.

thanks for clearing that up for me.

Jag · 02-02-2013, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsdraven

Jag, you were one of the ones who suggested in the OP's other thread to give the prong collar a break. The OP needs to focus on rebuilding the trust between themself and their dog and right now, the corrections will not do that since an inappropriate prong correction is what caused the issue to begin with.

Oops!

My short term memory issues are showing. Sorry. Ignore my other post, except when you go back to the prong just make sure it's fitted properly. I do like the martingale, though.

**JakodaCD OA** · 02-02-2013, 07:05 PM

I get my martingales from
The Ultimate Leash

He is now a vendor here, and I absolutely LOVE my martingales from him..clip on vs over the head, nice designs, sturdy..

Jag · 02-02-2013, 09:59 PM

That's where I got mine, too. I really like the metal buckle. Of course, when I went to the website I found I REALLY needed to have the Ultimate Leash, too!

doggiedad · 02-02-2013, 10:23 PM

i think you should find a trainer.

02-02-2013, 02:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
Phoebes Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 73	what are good alternatives for a prong collar? I'd like to follow a recommendation to give my dog a break from using a prong collar, and would like to get some suggestions on what might have the best chance of working out. My boy has his moments where he's good but he gets distracted easy and gets pretty rowdy. He's a 9 months and 75lbs GSD. He has his moments where he lunges forward and pulls like crazy. Different things set him off, it could be a dog, it could be a leaf... and sometimes he jumps on people, like my mom. He jumps on her repeatedly like a crazy ninja pup, I think trying to get her to play but he really needs to learn thats not ok. I need to work on his attention, his focus... There's a lot I need to work on, it's a long daunting list, so I need to get my hands on better tools. I've been told to try a martingale and I was looking at the easy walk harness and the gentle leader headcollar online. He will pull even with the prong, sometimes he ignores it's on, though it may be that the way his ex-trainer fit it was wrong, she left it on pretty loose. My guess is he'll ignore the martingale (because he will sometimes ignore the prong) so I'm leaning on the easy walk and would like to hear what you guys think or if there's some cons or if it could cause harm to my pup in anyway that I should look into anything else. Last edited by Phoebes; 02-02-2013 at 03:00 PM.

02-02-2013, 03:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
gsdraven Moderator Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Mont Co, PA Posts: 5,416	I would go with the martingale and easy walk together to give you more control if he really does lunge and pull that much. With a martingale, you can hook your leash to both the martingale and the front hook on the easy walk. He would feel most of the pressure on his neck which will help move toward getting off the easy walk but the added control have the easy walk controlling his front end. __________________ Jamie Raven (GSD) - December 8, 2007 Kaiser (GSD) - November 2009 Holly (GSD) - March 24, 2011 Best Paw Forward Life's Abundance

02-02-2013, 03:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jag Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,683	Please don't put a head collar on a dog that's acting like that. It could damage his neck. Take some links out of your prong to make it fit snugly. I also use a martingale, but ONLY when he's not acting like a fool. I think the main problem is you've never been using the prong correctly, so you've never really seen the benefits of it. __________________ Wrath of Grim z Dragon "Mr. Grim"- Threaten my handler. I dare you.

02-02-2013, 03:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
gsdraven Moderator Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Mont Co, PA Posts: 5,416	Jag, you were one of the ones who suggested in the OP's other thread to give the prong collar a break. The OP needs to focus on rebuilding the trust between themself and their dog and right now, the corrections will not do that since an inappropriate prong correction is what caused the issue to begin with. __________________ Jamie Raven (GSD) - December 8, 2007 Kaiser (GSD) - November 2009 Holly (GSD) - March 24, 2011 Best Paw Forward Life's Abundance

02-02-2013, 07:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
JakodaCD OA Moderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Old Lyme, CT USA Posts: 17,499	I get my martingales from The Ultimate Leash He is now a vendor here, and I absolutely LOVE my martingales from him..clip on vs over the head, nice designs, sturdy.. __________________ Diane Danger Danger vom Kleinen Hain aka Masi "Angel" Jakoda's Bewitchen Sami CD OA OAJ OAC NGC OJC RS-O GS-N JS-O TT HIC CGC "Angel" Steinwald's Four x Four CGC HIC TT Harmonyhill's Hy Jynx NA NAJ NAC NJC RS-N JS-N HIC Jakoda's Jagged Edge

02-02-2013, 09:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
Jag Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,683	That's where I got mine, too. I really like the metal buckle. Of course, when I went to the website I found I REALLY needed to have the Ultimate Leash, too! __________________ Wrath of Grim z Dragon "Mr. Grim"- Threaten my handler. I dare you.

02-02-2013, 10:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
doggiedad Crowned Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Jenkintown,Pa. Posts: 12,673	i think you should find a trainer. __________________ "Life Without A Dog Is A Life Unfulfilled"

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