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Old 12-07-2012, 07:44 PM   #21 (permalink)
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WOW!!!. I was really surprised with the replies. Nobody actual gave me suggestion or provided any help instead you all just went off and made me feel like i hate my dog and ii am ttrying to punish him. I love my dog more than anyone love their dog(s) on this site. Max is my first ever dog in my family. All I wanted to know was should i use this? is this a good tool? Safe to use? how to use it? but rreplies were shocking. By the way, i am returning my e collar back to amazon.com and I will see what other things i can do to make Max a happy family dog.
Sometimes people on forums do get upset when someone comes after the fact and asks for advice, without having done their research first, especially when it involves doing something to the dog that is perceived as detrimental.

Things such as zapping a dog for following the owner around show lack of knowledge about dog behavior, and owners have a responsibility to inform themselves even if it is their first dog.
This site has so many old threads with hundreds of pages of how-to, and it is easy to inform yourself.

Had you asked before ever doing anything, the replies would not have been "shocking."

All of your above questions would be answered much better than any of us could, if you go to a website where they specialize in e collar training and ask the professionals there.
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Well, thanks for the critique, but I actually took the time to PM Lou Castle and linked this post, telling him that someone could benefit from his expertise.

You never know what happens behind the scenes, and can't tell if someone did or did not actually do something to help in addition to what you see posted.
Thank you!! i wish someone had told me about Lou Castle earlier. Is this a paid memebership??
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:14 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Well, thanks for the critique, but I actually took the time to PM Lou Castle and linked this post, telling him that someone could benefit from his expertise.

You never know what happens behind the scenes, and can't tell if someone did or did not actually do something to help in addition to what you see posted.
I didn't "critique" your post, but offering a one word post that consists of:

"This",

really doesn't help the OP in any way that I can see. It basically ONLY offers your own "critique" of the first original post. If you like Lou's methods, you could simply have linked that site in that very first post, stating that here was a starting place for the OP to do some research.

Since people seem moody today, I'm going to qualify this by saying that this isn't meant to sound rude; but when someone posts asking for information, saying to them "Please do some research and inform yourself" seems like a rather rude oxymoron in itself. I mean, they're posting here FOR information. Pointing them to internet sites, as well as offering one's thoughts on ecollars, is more helpful than just the thoughts/opinions alone.
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When it comes to e-collar training, there is a difference in instructing~ so offering the OP on how to train her dog is going to take months of instruction if it is done right. Some things cannot be trained on a forum.
I inform myself all the time, because I'd rather do my own research than just read a number of opinions from people I have no idea if they even know what they are writing about.
There are some things w/ training that should be left to the professionals instructing hands on...and this is one of them.
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Too late to edit, but I should've added:
I mean how was anyone, especially the OP, supposed to know that you p.m'd . someone else for help?
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When it comes to e-collar training, there is a difference in instructing~ so offering the OP on how to train her dog is going to take months of instruction if it is done right. Some things cannot be trained on a forum.
I inform myself all the time, because I'd rather do my own research than just read a number of opinions from people I have no idea if they even know what they are writing about.
There are some things w/ training that should be left to the professionals instructing hands on...and this is one of them.
I agree Jane and that's a fine sentiment. However, in the couple of posts that I'm basically thinking of, nowhere in either of those posts did they mention seeking a professional trainer. They just said to do some research, which is what the OP thought they were probably doing by posting asking for information here on this forum.
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trainer. They just said to do some research, which is what the OP thought they were probably doing by posting asking for information here on this forum.
You have a point, there.
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Actually, sometimes the best advice is just to simply stop what you are doing immediately.

I'm sorry you do not like my post, but I do not give training advice on the use of ecollars any way shape or form over the internet nor do I endorse a particular trainer video or book. I felt it imperitive this individual does not continue their use of the ecollar and I want going to ignore that fact. But it it's all anyone will get on the subject from me....
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Actually, sometimes the best advice is just to simply stop what you are doing immediately.

I'm sorry you do not like my post, but I do not give training advice on the use of ecollars any way shape or form over the internet nor do I endorse a particular trainer video or book. I felt it imperitive this individual does not continue their use of the ecollar and I want going to ignore that fact. But it it's all anyone will get on the subject from me....

But why didn't you just say that in the beginning? The "Simply stop what you're doing and please find a qualified trainer to help you in person?"

The bolded sentence is what is frustrating for people. It is almost like there is a "closed club" of "in" people, who know what they're doing and don't want to share any info with us lesser "pet" owners. Fine if you don't want to endorse a particular book, video or trainer. But just telling someone to "review" doesn't really tell them anything, let alone help them to find the right direction.

It's not about whether *I* like it or not.
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