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Old 09-19-2011, 09:40 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Herm Sprenger prong collars with side release, quick release buckle|Leashes by Design

Small SS collar is $26.00, extra links are $2.75 each.

Small prong collar - $26.00
Herm Sprenger collar, Stainless Steel
End Swivel
Approximately 15" long
Fits up to a 14" neck (before adding extra links)
9 links, 2.25mm - each link is 3/4" wide x 1 1/8" long

Extra links -
Micro - $1.50 each
Small chrome plated - $1.00 each (43% off, reg $1.75)
Small Stainless Steel - $2.75 each
Medium chrome plated - $1.00 each (50% off, reg $2.00)
Large Stainless Steel - $3.00 each


I can vouch for these Leerburg leashes, I have two of them and I love them! They are stiff at first but soften up quickly. Mine have gotten mud on them, salt water from trips to the ocean - the leather is still perfect and the hardware doesn't seize. I've had leather leashes from pet supply stores that stretch and fade and get stiff, and the hardware locks up.

Leerburg | Leather Dog Leashes

They have matching tabs and several lengths of traffic leads. If you want the tab as a safety backup for the prong collar (I have tabs for each dog that I connect to the prong and leash on one end and their nylon flat collars on the other end), they just came out with this awesome leash with a built in tab: Leerburg | Prong Collar Leash™

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Old 09-20-2011, 05:01 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I bought 2 for extra links. Not sure about the chrome vs stainless thing. What's the difference?

It's a difference in the metals used to make the collars. All the plated collars are a basic metal collar which is then plated to give them a smooth and shiney surface coat, much like bumpers on old cars. The downside to a plated collar is underneath it's just metal and the plated layer is keeping the rust off it. Over time, and depending on the use it could be years, the plated layer can be pitted, scratched or damaged and eventually it'll wear away exposing the metal which will then rust. Once rust gets under the plated layer it's game over, the chrome will peel off and the collar will look terrible, much like bumpers on old cars

Stainless steel has several qualities in favour over plated collars. The most obvious is it won't rust and there's no plated layer to damage. If you scratch stainless steel it'll just look scuffed and still won't rust. It's not impossible for stainless steel to get a surface blemish or even show signs of rust, but it can just be scrubbed off. Basically the longevity is far superior, grit or salt water will kill a plated surface in no time, stainless steel will withstand the conditions.

Stainless steel is also a lot stronger than a standard metal collar and is lighter on a like for like basis. A chain gauge of 4.0mm in normal plated metal can be substituted with a 3.0mm stainless equivalent up to a point, it does have a finite breaking strain so for safety you'd eventually use a 4.0mm stainless collar instead. They may cost twice as much, but they'll last considerably more than twice as long so over time it's actually a better investment.
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The 'pet shop' brands collars you'll be familiar with (except of one we know of) are all made in China with low quality steel which is notoriously rigid and brittle, the links can and do snap. They're a pain to put on and take off because the steel has no spring in it, the chrome plating is thinner than tissue paper and the ends are chisel cut which I find the most disturbing aspect of these collars. Chisel cutting is how metal coat hangers are made and we all know how scratchy the end of a coat hanger is, that's why the prongs are flat at the bottom and always have a notch one side and a burr the other side, it scares me that people will put them on their dogs.
Well, mine is not chiseled. I know what that looks like/feels like and would never use that on my dogs. My pet shop brand prong is smooth and rounded just like my HS prongs. I've had it the longest of all my prong collars and it's held up just like the others. The main differences are that it is a bit harder to take apart (but not impossible, and unlike my HS prongs it has never popped apart by itself despite fitting slightly looser on the particular dog that wears it) and that the part where the chain loops through is not a solid "plate" like on the HS but this hasn't presented any issues.
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I have no idea, I've had it for years.
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Hallmark K9, Kraftwerk - both sell HS - much as I have reservations about KW - for call in purchases, he seems to be a bit better on pricing - and I always buy from Jim Hill at events and support him...I get my leads custom made tho, I use a couple of Amish leather shops (that don't breed dogs!!!)

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The 'pet shop' brands collars you'll be familiar with (except of one we know of) are all made in China with low quality steel which is notoriously rigid and brittle, the links can and do snap. They're a pain to put on and take off because the steel has no spring in it, the chrome plating is thinner than tissue paper and the ends are chisel cut which I find the most disturbing aspect of these collars.
Been using my pet shop brand every day, sometimes twice a day for five years. It's not chisel cut and the chrome has never been damaged.
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i ended up just getting it through ray allen with 3 extra links i didn't like the leashes or tabs from there though so i am going to get those elsewhere.
i also got them tags from dogtagart.com **sigh** sometimes looking around websites can be dangerous!
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