Looking for an escape proof collar/harness

tloibl · 08-25-2011, 01:03 PM

I'm new to this group and before posting this I did try and find a post that answers my question but I couldn't find exactly what I was looking for. My GS can slip out of a regular collar and a harness. I even thought I was doing the harness wrong but my vet said I was using it correct. When she is scared (like at the vet), she backs up and slips right out. I took her to the vet yesterday and I thought her harness was tight enought she wouldnt slip out but I was wrong. She slipped out, I grabbed her faster than the speed of light but then I carried her into the vet's office. I'm sure that was a funny site but I she was so scared and the harness wasnt going to stay on. Anyways... I did read that other dogs slip out of the harness. Has anyone found something that a dog cannot back out of? I admit she is a puller. I can control her but I worry about using a prong or choker type collar.

Thanks,
Tracy

kiya · 08-25-2011, 01:23 PM

My 18 month old female, Lakota would slip out of a collar so I use a nylon slip collar like this Leerburg | Nylon Slip Collar with a prong or her regular collar to prevent any mishap.

**JeanKBBMMMAAN** · 08-25-2011, 01:24 PM

Ah ha! Neurotic comes in handy.

For foster puppies I use a martingale collar (like a Lupine) and a regular harness, or a no pull harness like the Easy Walk.

Then I get a leash coupler and attach the collar to the harness and then the leash to the coupler.

I put the martingale on tight enough so that the loop can tighten, but so that the dog can't get their head out.

I'm going to go look for a picture right now.

Not the best pic - will look for another - dog on the right:

A little better - collar hidden by neck floof:

mthurston0001 · 08-25-2011, 01:24 PM

Martingale style collar or leash.

WarrantsWifey · 08-25-2011, 01:26 PM

I agree with Martingales, If they back up, the slip tightens so it can't slide over their head.

martemchik · 08-25-2011, 01:56 PM

Martingale or chain martingale (the piece around the neck is nylon and the other part is chain), but I don't understand your worry about prong/choke. When used properly they are great training tools and after the first time your dog pulls and feels that prong, they'll think hard about pulling the second time.

tloibl · 08-25-2011, 02:40 PM

The vet tech yesterday tried to explain what she uses. What she described is a Martingale. I am going to try it. Thank you everyone!

Tracy

PS - my fear of the prong collars/full choker is mainly because I've never used them before and I was concerned if she was scared, like at the vet, that she would pull so much that he would be injured.

**JeanKBBMMMAAN** · 08-25-2011, 02:44 PM

Fearful dogs don't need a correction from a prong when they are doing that back out thing. They need a straight jacket type setup.

And if they are really fearful, you need to double leash in case they bite and chew through the one. Lupine replaces for free, no matter how many you send in a month!

hunterisgreat · 08-25-2011, 03:00 PM

Collar is too lose. Also, when she pulls backwards, don't pull against her. You're only going to induce harder pulling.

No harness is escape proof as any dog can get their mouth on at least part of the harness...

LuvMyDog_Worldwide · 08-25-2011, 04:07 PM

The pulling is a training issue and can be worked on in a variety of ways, it's your choice how to approach it whether martingale, harness, prong or clicker etc, but to state the obvious, a dog can't back out of a flat buckle collar unless it's badly sized and fitted.

08-25-2011, 01:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
tloibl New Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 2	Looking for an escape proof collar/harness I'm new to this group and before posting this I did try and find a post that answers my question but I couldn't find exactly what I was looking for. My GS can slip out of a regular collar and a harness. I even thought I was doing the harness wrong but my vet said I was using it correct. When she is scared (like at the vet), she backs up and slips right out. I took her to the vet yesterday and I thought her harness was tight enought she wouldnt slip out but I was wrong. She slipped out, I grabbed her faster than the speed of light but then I carried her into the vet's office. I'm sure that was a funny site but I she was so scared and the harness wasnt going to stay on. Anyways... I did read that other dogs slip out of the harness. Has anyone found something that a dog cannot back out of? I admit she is a puller. I can control her but I worry about using a prong or choker type collar. Thanks, Tracy

08-25-2011, 01:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
kiya Elite Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 1,912	My 18 month old female, Lakota would slip out of a collar so I use a nylon slip collar like this Leerburg \| Nylon Slip Collar with a prong or her regular collar to prevent any mishap. __________________ Carolyn Apache - Shiloh Shepherd 12/15/02 Kiya - Shiloh Shepherd 5/15/04 Lakota - WGSD 1/13/10

08-25-2011, 01:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
JeanKBBMMMAAN The Rescues Rule Administrator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,697	Ah ha! Neurotic comes in handy. For foster puppies I use a martingale collar (like a Lupine) and a regular harness, or a no pull harness like the Easy Walk. Then I get a leash coupler and attach the collar to the harness and then the leash to the coupler. I put the martingale on tight enough so that the loop can tighten, but so that the dog can't get their head out. I'm going to go look for a picture right now. Not the best pic - will look for another - dog on the right: A little better - collar hidden by neck floof: __________________ Help IMOM help Pets www.imom.org You can help Anna help IMOM help people help pets help people win...

08-25-2011, 02:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
JeanKBBMMMAAN The Rescues Rule Administrator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,697	Fearful dogs don't need a correction from a prong when they are doing that back out thing. They need a straight jacket type setup. And if they are really fearful, you need to double leash in case they bite and chew through the one. Lupine replaces for free, no matter how many you send in a month! __________________ Help IMOM help Pets www.imom.org You can help Anna help IMOM help people help pets help people win...

08-25-2011, 03:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
hunterisgreat Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 1,566	Collar is too lose. Also, when she pulls backwards, don't pull against her. You're only going to induce harder pulling. No harness is escape proof as any dog can get their mouth on at least part of the harness... __________________ Hunter, USA basic trial helper Beschützer des Jägers v. Sportwaffen, HOT, BH Katya v. Hügelblick, HOT, IPO1 SG Aska v. Ketscher Wald, 2 x SchH3, Kkl 1

08-25-2011, 01:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
mthurston0001 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 255	Martingale style collar or leash.

08-25-2011, 01:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
WarrantsWifey Knighted Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,905	I agree with Martingales, If they back up, the slip tightens so it can't slide over their head.

08-25-2011, 01:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
martemchik Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,048	Martingale or chain martingale (the piece around the neck is nylon and the other part is chain), but I don't understand your worry about prong/choke. When used properly they are great training tools and after the first time your dog pulls and feels that prong, they'll think hard about pulling the second time.

08-25-2011, 02:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
tloibl New Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 2	The vet tech yesterday tried to explain what she uses. What she described is a Martingale. I am going to try it. Thank you everyone! Tracy PS - my fear of the prong collars/full choker is mainly because I've never used them before and I was concerned if she was scared, like at the vet, that she would pull so much that he would be injured.

08-25-2011, 04:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
LuvMyDog_Worldwide Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 64	The pulling is a training issue and can be worked on in a variety of ways, it's your choice how to approach it whether martingale, harness, prong or clicker etc, but to state the obvious, a dog can't back out of a flat buckle collar unless it's badly sized and fitted.

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