HS collar?

clearcreekranch · 03-18-2011, 09:54 AM

Thoughts and experiences with the HS prong collar with snap and live ring(buckle type) vs. quick release or regular martingale?

I want to order Wolf a new HS prong collar and since I have carpal tunnel in my hands, I have been contemplating the buckle type.

I would appreciate any input.

clearcreekranch · 03-19-2011, 02:44 PM

OK, so no one has any experiences with this collar????????? So I guess I am going to go ahead and order it and I will let you'all know how I like it.

Blazings · 03-19-2011, 02:49 PM

Nop sorry, never used prong on my beagle and currently don't have a dog

ayoitzrimz · 03-20-2011, 12:20 PM

I have recently tried both and I can tell you that for my dog the HS quick release prong is much more effective than the HS buckle type with live ring. I don't know what it was but with the buckle type (same size links) he won't even feel a correction no matter how hard you'd yank that chain (not that I went that far) whereas with the "standard" prong with quick release we are back to the "steering wheel for dogs" metaphor where a small pop will make him fix himself or pay attention whereas a large jerk (again didn't try it

) will elicit a yelp.

I've been recommending everyone with hard dogs to avoid the buckle type HS collars and go for the quick release but again your mileage may vary.

clearcreekranch · 03-20-2011, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayoitzrimz

I have recently tried both and I can tell you that for my dog the HS quick release prong is much more effective than the HS buckle type with live ring. I don't know what it was but with the buckle type (same size links) he won't even feel a correction no matter how hard you'd yank that chain (not that I went that far) whereas with the "standard" prong with quick release we are back to the "steering wheel for dogs" metaphor where a small pop will make him fix himself or pay attention whereas a large jerk (again didn't try it

) will elicit a yelp.

I've been recommending everyone with hard dogs to avoid the buckle type HS collars and go for the quick release but again your mileage may vary.

Thanks. Hope I get different results. I have already ordered it.

**JakodaCD OA** · 03-20-2011, 04:53 PM

there was a discussion on here awhile ago about herm sprenger collars..maybe try doing a search to see what you come up with?

Syaoransbear · 03-20-2011, 06:25 PM

Could you post a link to which buckle-type it is? There are a few of them, and some of them produce very different results from one another.

clearcreekranch · 03-21-2011, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syaoransbear

Could you post a link to which buckle-type it is? There are a few of them, and some of them produce very different results from one another.

Sorry, I am VERY computer illiterate and don't have a clue how to post a link. It took me 6 mos. to figure out how to put on pic on the forum. LOL I ordered it from dogsport gear and it is a HS Stainless Steel Prong Collar with snap and live ring, item #14710000.

**Chris Wild** · 03-21-2011, 04:13 PM

IMO, the regular old style prong is the way to go. The ones with the buckles do not work the same, and thus are not as versatile due to the lack of smooth and effectively working live and dead ring action. The snaps on the quick release ones are an area of weakness. These can freeze up or break, causing the collar to pop open. The french scissors snap quick release being very prone to this.

**jocoyn** · 03-21-2011, 04:21 PM

I agree the regular old style herm springer prong has a flat plate that is EASY to fit the prongs in. I have had that stupid french snap fail. They are so much nicer than the ones you buy at the pet store and very easy to use.

03-18-2011, 09:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
clearcreekranch Master Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Friendswood, Texas Posts: 856	HS collar? Thoughts and experiences with the HS prong collar with snap and live ring(buckle type) vs. quick release or regular martingale? I want to order Wolf a new HS prong collar and since I have carpal tunnel in my hands, I have been contemplating the buckle type. I would appreciate any input.

03-19-2011, 02:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
Blazings Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Near Arnhem (Netherlands) Posts: 231	Nop sorry, never used prong on my beagle and currently don't have a dog __________________ Feel free to add me on Facebook

03-20-2011, 04:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
JakodaCD OA Moderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Old Lyme, CT USA Posts: 14,237	there was a discussion on here awhile ago about herm sprenger collars..maybe try doing a search to see what you come up with? __________________ Diane Danger Danger vom Kleinen Hain aka Masi "Angel" Jakoda's Bewitchen Sami CD OA OAJ OAC NGC OJC RS-O GS-N JS-O TT HIC CGC "Angel" Steinwald's Four x Four CGC HIC TT Harmonyhill's Hy Jynx NA NAJ NAC NJC RS-N JS-N HIC Jakoda's Jagged Edge

03-20-2011, 06:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
Syaoransbear Knighted Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada, Sask Posts: 3,115	Could you post a link to which buckle-type it is? There are a few of them, and some of them produce very different results from one another. __________________ Chrono - Black German Shepherd 01/18/08 http://www.dogster.com/dogs/994330

03-21-2011, 04:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
Chris Wild Administrator & Alpha Bitch of the Wild Bunch Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 12,604	IMO, the regular old style prong is the way to go. The ones with the buckles do not work the same, and thus are not as versatile due to the lack of smooth and effectively working live and dead ring action. The snaps on the quick release ones are an area of weakness. These can freeze up or break, causing the collar to pop open. The french scissors snap quick release being very prone to this. __________________ *Wildhaus Kennels* Kaiser ~ SchH3 CGC TDI (HOT) Raven ~ SchH3 AWD2 PD1 P1 PA T1 UCD URO2 CGC TT (B/HOT) Della ~ SchHA TR1 PD1 P1 PA T1 URO2 CGC TT (B/HOT) Wulf ~ SchH1 PD1 P1 T1 URO2 CGC TT (B/HOT) Heidi ~ BH CD UCD RN URO1 (B/HOT) Jazz ~ Superpup In Training

03-19-2011, 02:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
clearcreekranch Master Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Friendswood, Texas Posts: 856	OK, so no one has any experiences with this collar????????? So I guess I am going to go ahead and order it and I will let you'all know how I like it.

03-20-2011, 12:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
ayoitzrimz Master Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New York, NY Posts: 503	I have recently tried both and I can tell you that for my dog the HS quick release prong is much more effective than the HS buckle type with live ring. I don't know what it was but with the buckle type (same size links) he won't even feel a correction no matter how hard you'd yank that chain (not that I went that far) whereas with the "standard" prong with quick release we are back to the "steering wheel for dogs" metaphor where a small pop will make him fix himself or pay attention whereas a large jerk (again didn't try it ) will elicit a yelp. I've been recommending everyone with hard dogs to avoid the buckle type HS collars and go for the quick release but again your mileage may vary.

03-21-2011, 04:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
jocoyn Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 8,045	I agree the regular old style herm springer prong has a flat plate that is EASY to fit the prongs in. I have had that stupid french snap fail. They are so much nicer than the ones you buy at the pet store and very easy to use. __________________ Nancy www.scsarda.org Grim (Grimmy Bear) & Beau (Bo-dee man) Waiting at the Bridge: Cyra, Toby, Rainbow, Linus, Oscar, Arlo & Waggles

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