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Old 03-13-2011, 08:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default New DogSportGear/All K-9 Agitation Harness

It's time for a new harness. I like the quality and customer service of this company, so I'm looking here first.

I already have this company's 2" leather collar, which is awesome for off-lead and full-on bites. (I highly recommend it.) But, I also like to work just on drive-building in some sessions, and I don't like a high-drive dog hitting the end of a lead when on a collar, if you know what I mean.

Does anyone have any experience with this harness, or its leather counterpart?

Padded All Weather Quick Release Dog Harness - $46.50 : Dog Equipment, Police Dog, Schutzhund, Service Dog, Dog Agility

According to the description, it's made exactly the same as their leather harness here:

http://www.allk-9.com/padded-leather...ness-p-68.html

I am considering the synthetic one because it should last longer, and I'm thinking I won't have to worry about maintenance or wear when working in water (lakes, streams, whatever).

Thanks in advance.
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It's time for a new harness. I like the quality and customer service of this company, so I'm looking here first.

I already have this company's 2" leather collar, which is awesome for off-lead and full-on bites. (I highly recommend it.) But, I also like to work just on drive-building in some sessions, and I don't like a high-drive dog hitting the end of a lead when on a collar, if you know what I mean.

Does anyone have any experience with this harness, or its leather counterpart?

Padded All Weather Quick Release Dog Harness - $46.50 : Dog Equipment, Police Dog, Schutzhund, Service Dog, Dog Agility

According to the description, it's made exactly the same as their leather harness here:

Padded Leather Quick Release Dog Harness - $54.99 : Dog Equipment, Police Dog, Schutzhund, Service Dog, Dog Agility

I am considering the synthetic one because it should last longer, and I'm thinking I won't have to worry about maintenance or wear when working in water (lakes, streams, whatever).

Thanks in advance.
You do bitework in lakes?

I have a synthetic harness from elitek9. I like it.
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Yes, I do bitework any- and every- where. My belief is that when a dog is under command, any command, it should do its "job" regardless of environment. Besides, swimmers make for easy decoys.

The only one I see on their site that has a breastplate does not specify material, so I assumed it was leather. Is this the one you have?

3-Point Agitation Harness-Elite K-9

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You do bitework in lakes?

I have a synthetic harness from elitek9. I like it.
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Very interested in this, too. Not for real training purposes, but just the fact that Jakey LOVES to dart after cats, and this will give me more control over him than just grabbing his collar and/or travel vest.
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I just got off the phone with DogSportGear, and they said the Biothane has a 1000 psi breaking point, so it's plenty strong. They said it is indeed much lower maintenance than leather and will outlast leather considerably. I ordered one. If you like, I can let you know what I find when it arrives later this week.

As an aside, you might want to consider working on your dog's bad habit. You don't want it to get loose and dart into traffic chasing a cat. While a harness MAY give you more leverage, it will likely ENCOURAGE your dog to pull. What I would do is teach the dog to Heel, initially in an area of low distraction. Later, introduce low distractions from a distance and work your way up to higher distractions.

If your dog likes to chase balls, start using this to your advantage. With your dog on-leash in a Down position (easier to catch him/her rising up from a Down/Stay), roll a ball slowly away from you while telling the dog to Stay. Release the dog to chase the ball as a reward. This could help teach the dog a little self-control, because it still gets to go get the ball after doing its "job". Progress to throwing the ball as your dog becomes more and more solid. These videos may help:

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Very interested in this, too. Not for real training purposes, but just the fact that Jakey LOVES to dart after cats, and this will give me more control over him than just grabbing his collar and/or travel vest.
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I just got off the phone with DogSportGear, and they said the Biothane has a 1000 psi breaking point, so it's plenty strong. They said it is indeed much lower maintenance than leather and will outlast leather considerably. I ordered one. If you like, I can let you know what I find when it arrives later this week.

As an aside, you might want to consider working on your dog's bad habit. You don't want it to get loose and dart into traffic chasing a cat. While a harness MAY give you more leverage, it will likely ENCOURAGE your dog to pull. What I would do is teach the dog to Heel, initially in an area of low distraction. Later, introduce low distractions from a distance and work your way up to higher distractions.

If your dog likes to chase balls, start using this to your advantage. With your dog on-leash in a Down position (easier to catch him/her rising up from a Down/Stay), roll a ball slowly away from you while telling the dog to Stay. Release the dog to chase the ball as a reward. This could help teach the dog a little self-control, because it still gets to go get the ball after doing its "job". Progress to throwing the ball as your dog becomes more and more solid. These videos may help:

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Let me know how it works out, definitely.
Sadly, I've tried almost everything on him to stop darting after cats, but NOTHING has worked. He's pretty good on a leash/tether with that being his only major vice. He doesn't care a whiff about balls, and he becomes blind and deaf to the world around him once he's targets a feline on the street. He doesn't care about cats in windows or at Petstores, just on the street.
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Let me know how it works out, definitely.
Sadly, I've tried almost everything on him to stop darting after cats, but NOTHING has worked. He's pretty good on a leash/tether with that being his only major vice. He doesn't care a whiff about balls, and he becomes blind and deaf to the world around him once he's targets a feline on the street. He doesn't care about cats in windows or at Petstores, just on the street.
What about an e collar?
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It's time for a new harness. I like the quality and customer service of this company, so I'm looking here first.

I already have this company's 2" leather collar, which is awesome for off-lead and full-on bites. (I highly recommend it.) But, I also like to work just on drive-building in some sessions, and I don't like a high-drive dog hitting the end of a lead when on a collar, if you know what I mean.

Does anyone have any experience with this harness, or its leather counterpart?

Padded All Weather Quick Release Dog Harness - $46.50 : Dog Equipment, Police Dog, Schutzhund, Service Dog, Dog Agility

According to the description, it's made exactly the same as their leather harness here:

Padded Leather Quick Release Dog Harness - $54.99 : Dog Equipment, Police Dog, Schutzhund, Service Dog, Dog Agility

I am considering the synthetic one because it should last longer, and I'm thinking I won't have to worry about maintenance or wear when working in water (lakes, streams, whatever).

Thanks in advance.
I noticed that the harness is made by Redline K-9. I have one of their sleeves, and really like it. It is a quality piece of gear. Let us know how the harness works out, as I gave my favorite harness to a client and could use a new one.
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We've bought 2-3 of the harnesses you linked to. All the handle rivets snapped off fairly quickly. One while I was holding a Rottweiler during bitework.
We have one of the Yurkiw harnesses from that site and it is pretty sturdy thus far.
We also have 2-3 of these and they are sturdy(leather). Schutzhund dog Harness -Agitation/Protection Leather Dog Harness [Training dog harness- H1] : Schutzhund training equipment,Schutzhund Bite Sleeves,Schutzhund leashes,harnesses,muzzles, Intermediate sleeve,Hidden sleeve,Protection Sleeves for dog tra
A friend just brought one of these back from Europe and it's really nice. We've just ordered a couple to try out, but we used the friends a few times and really liked it.
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Sometimes it's tough to find good gear unless you are able to examine it in person.

Not familiar with those ones, but I have a decent leather harness, and a muzzle as well from Bridgeport Equipment.

They have decent quality gear for a fair price, and I have ordered from them several times, with quick results.

I also have a nylon patrol/tracking/agitation harness that is of superior materials and craftsmanship. Not bulky, very secure. (I think it's in some of my album pics) They are made by hand, one at a time, by a retired K9 officer down in North Carolina, custom measured for your dog. I think I have his contact info somewhere...if anyone needs it, send me a PM.
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