Agitation collars? and what's best for fur?

cassadee7 · 02-28-2011, 01:32 PM

I am looking around online for a collar for Saber. I was thinking a leather one would be nice, and found some on sale for not much more than nylon. But what is an "agitation collar"? I don't see any difference from a regular collar... looks like flat leather. I don't want to agitate my pup though! Is there something different about them that I'd want to avoid?

Also was thinking maybe rolled leather would be better for not wearing away fur around the neck. What's the best collar for a pup, that will be easy on the neck fur?

GSDElsa · 02-28-2011, 01:35 PM

Haha, it' used for protection so the dog can't choke/hurt itself like with the thinner collars.

Elsa has a nice one she wears just becaus ewe like the look of it. But she doesn't have it on in the house often. No fur problems here.

Ace952 · 02-28-2011, 01:36 PM

Get a fur saver. You don't need a agitation collar unless you are doing some protection/bite work.

**Castlemaid** · 02-28-2011, 01:43 PM

Agitation collars are very wide - usually 1 1/2 to 2 inches wide, sometimes padded, sometimes with a handy-dandy handle sewed on - they are used for protection work, to encourage the dog to pull on the line; the wider collar won't choke them like a regular collar. Since they only wear it for training, the collar wearing down the fur is not a concern.

Fur savers do indeed prevent the fur from being worn down - but the links can catch and the collar works like a choke collar, so not something I would use unless the pup was supervised.

The rolled collars are nice on the fur - though I never had any issue with a regular flat collar, wearing fur down, either nylon or leather, as my dogs don't wear collars in the house.

I'd just get a collar that you like - Saber will outgrow it soon anyways!

cassadee7 · 02-28-2011, 01:46 PM

Thanks Lucia, that's true she will outgrow it

It is pretty fun shopping for dog stuff. LOL. I think I will just get a flat or rolled regular leather collar that's on clearance, for now.

**Liesje** · 02-28-2011, 02:33 PM

An agitation collar has the hardware run differently than a normal hardware. Nikon wears a 1" leather collar that is his normal day to day collar and I also use it for bitework because of how it is constructed. It doesn't necessarily have to be a really wide collar, and some collars that are wide are not made properly for bitework.

Nikon's collar

The difference is for an agitation collar, the end runs through the D-ring before the buckle. This makes the collar stronger, rather than many flat collars where the end goes through the buckle and then the D-ring is held on by an extra piece with stitches and/or rivets. Does that make sense?

cassadee7 · 02-28-2011, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liesje

The difference is for an agitation collar, the end runs through the D-ring before the buckle. This makes the collar stronger, rather than many flat collars where the end goes through the buckle and then the D-ring is held on by an extra piece with stitches and/or rivets. Does that make sense?

Ah yes! Thank you Lies! That makes sense. Here is one collar I was looking at but decided it is probably too wide for us. It looks like Nikon's.

1.5 inch Leather Dog Collar - $15.99 : Dog Equipment, Police Dog, Schutzhund, Service Dog, Dog Agility

Sounds like this type of collar would be fine for general use as well, for an adult dog.

**Liesje** · 02-28-2011, 02:46 PM

Yep, Nikon wears his all the time, and I use it for Schutzhund and flyball. I think he's had it on for several weeks straight now. It just give him a bit of a "part" in the hair on his neck but I don't care, no matter what we do he wears a collar of some kind. His is a very thick but soft and supple leather. I wasn't looking for one but when I felt the collar I had to buy it. Most of the other ones I've felt I would not have purchased.

GSD07 · 02-28-2011, 06:31 PM

1.5 in leather agitation collar is Anton's main collar for hiking and walking. I like the large D-ring because I clip and unclip the leash pretty often

It's pretty heavy, though, I don't think Saber needs one for a while, but you may get one if the price is good. I had one before even Anton was born because I bought it online by mistake

**Castlemaid** · 02-28-2011, 07:07 PM

Shawn, that is the every-day collar I have for Gryffon, (the one you linked) in a one inch width. That buckle design is also called police or militray spec, because of the extra strength -

This is a classic 2 inch wide agitation collar if you were wondering:

02-28-2011, 01:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
cassadee7 Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: WA Posts: 1,311	Agitation collars? and what's best for fur? I am looking around online for a collar for Saber. I was thinking a leather one would be nice, and found some on sale for not much more than nylon. But what is an "agitation collar"? I don't see any difference from a regular collar... looks like flat leather. I don't want to agitate my pup though! Is there something different about them that I'd want to avoid? Also was thinking maybe rolled leather would be better for not wearing away fur around the neck. What's the best collar for a pup, that will be easy on the neck fur? __________________ Shawn Mom to five kids and "Saber" Jette vom Wildhaus CAA JJ-N HIC CGC Kira vom Snoozhaus ZZZ Saber's Blog: Stuff Saber Does

02-28-2011, 01:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
GSDElsa Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Central, NY Posts: 4,045	Haha, it' used for protection so the dog can't choke/hurt itself like with the thinner collars. Elsa has a nice one she wears just becaus ewe like the look of it. But she doesn't have it on in the house often. No fur problems here. __________________ J, mom to: - Elsa - "Da Pookins" - Medo - "The Beast From The East"

02-28-2011, 01:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
Castlemaid The Administrator from the Great White North, eh? Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Northern British Columbia Posts: 11,182	Agitation collars are very wide - usually 1 1/2 to 2 inches wide, sometimes padded, sometimes with a handy-dandy handle sewed on - they are used for protection work, to encourage the dog to pull on the line; the wider collar won't choke them like a regular collar. Since they only wear it for training, the collar wearing down the fur is not a concern. Fur savers do indeed prevent the fur from being worn down - but the links can catch and the collar works like a choke collar, so not something I would use unless the pup was supervised. The rolled collars are nice on the fur - though I never had any issue with a regular flat collar, wearing fur down, either nylon or leather, as my dogs don't wear collars in the house. I'd just get a collar that you like - Saber will outgrow it soon anyways! __________________ Lucia Keeta BH, OB1, TR1, AD Rottweiler/Hairy Dog mix?? Shelter rescue Gryffon Vom Wildhaus BH

02-28-2011, 01:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
cassadee7 Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: WA Posts: 1,311	Thanks Lucia, that's true she will outgrow it It is pretty fun shopping for dog stuff. LOL. I think I will just get a flat or rolled regular leather collar that's on clearance, for now. __________________ Shawn Mom to five kids and "Saber" Jette vom Wildhaus CAA JJ-N HIC CGC Kira vom Snoozhaus ZZZ Saber's Blog: Stuff Saber Does

02-28-2011, 02:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
Liesje Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 16,258	An agitation collar has the hardware run differently than a normal hardware. Nikon wears a 1" leather collar that is his normal day to day collar and I also use it for bitework because of how it is constructed. It doesn't necessarily have to be a really wide collar, and some collars that are wide are not made properly for bitework. Nikon's collar The difference is for an agitation collar, the end runs through the D-ring before the buckle. This makes the collar stronger, rather than many flat collars where the end goes through the buckle and then the D-ring is held on by an extra piece with stitches and/or rivets. Does that make sense? __________________ Liesje & the K9s Nikon (GSD) U-CH SG Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 KKL T1 FO PA TF-III FDCh-S CL1-R UJJ U-CA HIT TT CGC Coke (All-American) VPC's Coca-Cola CGC, couch warmer extraordinaire Indy (All-American) Blue Horizon's Indigo Girl, flyball star in training Rainbow Bridge Kenya (GSD) U-CH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop CL1-R CL1-F RA HIT TDI TT CGC vom Blauen Horizont / Blue Horizon GSDs

02-28-2011, 01:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ace952 Master Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 752	Get a fur saver. You don't need a agitation collar unless you are doing some protection/bite work.

02-28-2011, 02:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Liesje Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 16,258	Yep, Nikon wears his all the time, and I use it for Schutzhund and flyball. I think he's had it on for several weeks straight now. It just give him a bit of a "part" in the hair on his neck but I don't care, no matter what we do he wears a collar of some kind. His is a very thick but soft and supple leather. I wasn't looking for one but when I felt the collar I had to buy it. Most of the other ones I've felt I would not have purchased. __________________ Liesje & the K9s Nikon (GSD) U-CH SG Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 KKL T1 FO PA TF-III FDCh-S CL1-R UJJ U-CA HIT TT CGC Coke (All-American) VPC's Coca-Cola CGC, couch warmer extraordinaire Indy (All-American) Blue Horizon's Indigo Girl, flyball star in training Rainbow Bridge Kenya (GSD) U-CH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop CL1-R CL1-F RA HIT TDI TT CGC vom Blauen Horizont / Blue Horizon GSDs

02-28-2011, 06:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
GSD07 Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,838	1.5 in leather agitation collar is Anton's main collar for hiking and walking. I like the large D-ring because I clip and unclip the leash pretty often It's pretty heavy, though, I don't think Saber needs one for a while, but you may get one if the price is good. I had one before even Anton was born because I bought it online by mistake __________________

02-28-2011, 07:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
Castlemaid The Administrator from the Great White North, eh? Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Northern British Columbia Posts: 11,182	Shawn, that is the every-day collar I have for Gryffon, (the one you linked) in a one inch width. That buckle design is also called police or militray spec, because of the extra strength - This is a classic 2 inch wide agitation collar if you were wondering: __________________ Lucia Keeta BH, OB1, TR1, AD Rottweiler/Hairy Dog mix?? Shelter rescue Gryffon Vom Wildhaus BH Last edited by Castlemaid; 02-28-2011 at 07:09 PM.

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