Herm Sprenger Neck-tech prong collar

hunterisgreat · 02-07-2011, 03:22 PM

Its time for a new prong collar. Yesterday, trainer suggested I move to a smaller prong collar for my larger male as I wasn't getting a good enough correction out of his current. I'm also able to effectively use a prong on my pup now without hurt feelings (she was crazy sensitive to it earlier). So, rather than a cheapy, I'm going to get herm sprengers... noticed their neck-tech thing which has a more pleasant appearance, and looks like it might be sturdier. Also, it is self described as a major step forward in prong design...

Also, my HS fur savers have taken years of swimming in salt water in stride with out so much as a single pit mark, much less visibile rust... so I have confidence in the brand.

For those unfamiliar, here is a picture (the individual vendor plugs are not intended or endorsed by me

... hard to find pics without )

Thoughts?

Stosh · 02-07-2011, 03:24 PM

I use the large prong HS collar and fur savers and they're both great. I was thinking of trying this kind but Stosh is long-coated so I'm not sure if it will be effective.

hunterisgreat · 02-07-2011, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stosh

I use the large prong HS collar and fur savers and they're both great. I was thinking of trying this kind but Stosh is long-coated so I'm not sure if it will be effective.

Several people told me the smaller prongs actually work better for long/thick coat. My male has a dense dense undercoat and I was told to put the bigger prong on my female, and the smaller one she wears on him (not enough links though, so here we are).

Of course THEY say the necktech works great on long & short alike.

I really like the hidden ones so I don't have to have people giving me crap b/c I train with a training collar. It gets so old explaining to people that prong collars aren't abuse (in the correct hands), and that schutzhund training won't turn my sweet pups into child eating devil dogs

Stosh · 02-07-2011, 03:32 PM

Well that's good to know, I'll get one then. The long prongs get so tangled up in his fur that it's sometimes difficult to get the collar off. This one would solve that problem.

hunterisgreat · 02-07-2011, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stosh

Well that's good to know, I'll get one then. The long prongs get so tangled up in his fur that it's sometimes difficult to get the collar off. This one would solve that problem.

I pull hair out frequently on accident right now. Plus the crap prong collars rust the first time they get wet, where the wear is

**gsdraven** · 02-07-2011, 03:40 PM

Herm Sprenger NECK-TECH PRONG

NECK TECH STAINLESS STEEL PINCH COLLAR

Herm Sprenger Neck Tech Prong Collar

Here are a couple of other threads on the collar. In case you wanted to see what's been said before.

hunterisgreat · 02-07-2011, 04:17 PM

Hmm... so if my female doesn't require a hard correction, I wonder if I could get away with the buckle one. It looks pretty discrete and clean. Plus, she is so quick and wiry I wanna minimize the chance of caught/twisted fingers should her neck get close to a hand when she's doing her thing

**JKlatsky** · 02-07-2011, 04:31 PM

I personally don't love the Neck-tech prongs. I've seen them used well with the shorter coated dogs- dobermans, mals, close coated shepherds...but because there is no place for for the hair to go it does tend to keep the prongs off the neck. The prongs on this are not as long as the prongs on a regular medium prong collar. I also found it difficult to adjust links.

It is true that there is more pinch per inch in a smaller prong. Although right now, if you go to herm Sprenger actual website and check their current product catalog you can see that they've done a redesign on the prong collars. Now there is a plate in the middle and the prongs are 2-directional. My understanding is that this stops the collar from rotating and can create a better correction as well. Kind of like this one... Herm Sprenger Stainless Steel with Buckle available in 2.25mm and 3.25mm

jakeandrenee · 02-07-2011, 04:39 PM

What is the deal with the buckle? I need to order a HS for Jake this week and I am lost what to get....
Sorry for the hijack..

**gsdraven** · 02-07-2011, 04:58 PM

Nylon Quick-Release Training Pinch Collar - Pinch collar with easy-on/easy-off plus a slide loop for difficult training.

I tried this one on Raven and I didn't like it at all. It felt like I had a regular flat or martingale on her. She doesn't need strong corrections and we only used the prong for training but she didn't respond to it. I went the the small prong (2.25mm) and she responded really well to it. I noticed that I needed less of a correction than on the medium (3.0mm) prong.

02-07-2011, 03:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
hunterisgreat Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 1,566	Herm Sprenger Neck-tech prong collar Its time for a new prong collar. Yesterday, trainer suggested I move to a smaller prong collar for my larger male as I wasn't getting a good enough correction out of his current. I'm also able to effectively use a prong on my pup now without hurt feelings (she was crazy sensitive to it earlier). So, rather than a cheapy, I'm going to get herm sprengers... noticed their neck-tech thing which has a more pleasant appearance, and looks like it might be sturdier. Also, it is self described as a major step forward in prong design... Also, my HS fur savers have taken years of swimming in salt water in stride with out so much as a single pit mark, much less visibile rust... so I have confidence in the brand. For those unfamiliar, here is a picture (the individual vendor plugs are not intended or endorsed by me ... hard to find pics without ) Thoughts? __________________ Hunter, USA basic trial helper Beschützer des Jägers v. Sportwaffen, HOT, BH Katya v. Hügelblick, HOT, IPO1 SG Aska v. Ketscher Wald, 2 x SchH3, Kkl 1

02-07-2011, 04:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
hunterisgreat Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 1,566	Hmm... so if my female doesn't require a hard correction, I wonder if I could get away with the buckle one. It looks pretty discrete and clean. Plus, she is so quick and wiry I wanna minimize the chance of caught/twisted fingers should her neck get close to a hand when she's doing her thing __________________ Hunter, USA basic trial helper Beschützer des Jägers v. Sportwaffen, HOT, BH Katya v. Hügelblick, HOT, IPO1 SG Aska v. Ketscher Wald, 2 x SchH3, Kkl 1

02-07-2011, 04:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
JKlatsky Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Riverview, FL Posts: 2,985	I personally don't love the Neck-tech prongs. I've seen them used well with the shorter coated dogs- dobermans, mals, close coated shepherds...but because there is no place for for the hair to go it does tend to keep the prongs off the neck. The prongs on this are not as long as the prongs on a regular medium prong collar. I also found it difficult to adjust links. It is true that there is more pinch per inch in a smaller prong. Although right now, if you go to herm Sprenger actual website and check their current product catalog you can see that they've done a redesign on the prong collars. Now there is a plate in the middle and the prongs are 2-directional. My understanding is that this stops the collar from rotating and can create a better correction as well. Kind of like this one... Herm Sprenger Stainless Steel with Buckle available in 2.25mm and 3.25mm __________________ Argos vom Eisernen Loewen VPG1, CGC, TC 3-3-07 Bianka vom Eisernen Loewen BH, CGC, TC 1-3-08 Cade vom Eisernen Loewen CGC 3-25-09 D'Artagnan (Tag) vom Eisernen Loewen 2-2-10 G Aiko von Burkndeiros SchH 3, IPO3, FH, TC, KKL2 9-17-02

02-07-2011, 04:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
jakeandrenee Knighted Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Huntsville Alabama Posts: 3,103	What is the deal with the buckle? I need to order a HS for Jake this week and I am lost what to get.... Sorry for the hijack.. __________________ Renee' Jake 2/12/10 CGC TDI

02-07-2011, 03:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
Stosh Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: tyler texas Posts: 8,434	I use the large prong HS collar and fur savers and they're both great. I was thinking of trying this kind but Stosh is long-coated so I'm not sure if it will be effective.

02-07-2011, 03:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
Stosh Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: tyler texas Posts: 8,434	Well that's good to know, I'll get one then. The long prongs get so tangled up in his fur that it's sometimes difficult to get the collar off. This one would solve that problem.

02-07-2011, 03:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
gsdraven Moderator Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Mont Co, PA Posts: 4,627	Herm Sprenger NECK-TECH PRONG NECK TECH STAINLESS STEEL PINCH COLLAR Herm Sprenger Neck Tech Prong Collar Here are a couple of other threads on the collar. In case you wanted to see what's been said before.

02-07-2011, 04:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
gsdraven Moderator Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Mont Co, PA Posts: 4,627	Nylon Quick-Release Training Pinch Collar - Pinch collar with easy-on/easy-off plus a slide loop for difficult training. I tried this one on Raven and I didn't like it at all. It felt like I had a regular flat or martingale on her. She doesn't need strong corrections and we only used the prong for training but she didn't respond to it. I went the the small prong (2.25mm) and she responded really well to it. I noticed that I needed less of a correction than on the medium (3.0mm) prong.

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