"Dangerous" GSD containment - fence heighth etc

[Strana1]

Originally Posted By: StrongheartLike I said, we have a 4' chain link that he can leap over without even touching.

We may not be able to get a permit for anything over 6'. We have a really nice kennel, 2 AKC ones with the tarp cover, but he can knock those over he's so darn big and powerful. But maybe we could get a few more of those and since they are modular, make them into one large kennel he could run around in and put a real roof on it and also anchor them into the ground somehow. Might be cheaper than the fence estimate we got today.

Hmmm...

I don't know how handy you are, but I just installed a 5' chain link fence and it was not hard. You could rent a post hole digger and then the cost is materials. I would not suggest using the panels of a kennel. I did for a 40' section (because I alread had the kennel and I got the chain mesh for free and it wasn't long enough) with 4 panels, put them about 6 inches into the ground and attached them to posts that were 2 1/2 feet in the ground and it is still a little wobbly. I would also second using the invisible fence in conjunction with the chain link. That would keep him off of it and not give him an opportunity to dig or climb. If you have any questions about installing chain link just let me know, I would have never been able to have a fenced in yard if I didn't do it myself. you can also find chain link that people are giving away or selling cheap on craigslist.

[Jay5oh]

Interesting, PA doesn't specificly list a height either.

Quote:Requirements to Keep a Dog that has been Declared Dangerous
A proper enclosure to contain the dog. The enclosure must have secure sides and a top. Sides must extend 2 feet into the ground to prevent the dog from digging out. Carry a $50,000 bond payable to any person injured by the dangerous dog or a liability insurance policy for at least $50,000.
Pay a fee of $25 per year to the Bureau of Dog Law Enforcement to register the dangerous dog.
Post uniform identifiable symbols around the property to indicate a dangerous dog is on the premises.

"Must have secure sides and top" could be interpreted that the whole thing must be fully closed.



I found this http://www.ci.salisbury.md.us/Portal...des/Title6.pdf which may help guide you.

On page 2 under the definitions "secure enclosure" it list what they consider secure. Page 8 also talks about dangerous dogs.

[allieg]

Originally Posted By: Strana1

I don't know how handy you are, but I just installed a 5' chain link fence and it was not hard. You could rent a post hole digger and then the cost is materials. I would not suggest using the panels of a kennel. I did for a 40' section (because I alread had the kennel and I got the chain mesh for free and it wasn't long enough) with 4 panels, put them about 6 inches into the ground and attached them to posts that were 2 1/2 feet in the ground and it is still a little wobbly. I would also second using the invisible fence in conjunction with the chain link. That would keep him off of it and not give him an opportunity to dig or climb. If you have any questions about installing chain link just let me know, I would have never been able to have a fenced in yard if I didn't do it myself. you can also find chain link that people are giving away or selling cheap on craigslist.

Chain link is easy to install.We've done 2 now by ourselves.Our first was to keep the kids contained from a drop off on a retaining wall in the city and 4 yrs ago we did a 20X20 or something like that for a pool which has in turn turned into a dog kennel. It was just the 2 of us that did it both times.
Good Luck on what ever you decide.

[Cassidy's Mom]

Originally Posted By: Camerafodderi also don't think of a privacy fence as being boring or oppressive. if anything, it can serve as stressful for a lot of dogs and speaking for my dogs - the more they can see, the more likely they'd be to bark or charge the fence.

I agree. Seeing things they can't get to can be very frustrating for a dog - think leash aggression and fence fighting. A solid fence is often a much better solution, but also more expensive. If you're concerned about him being able to get out, a roofed kennel is probably your best bet.

[AbbyK9]

Sounds to me like your best option would be to build a dog run with a cement (or similar) floor, welded wire or chain-link sides and an actual roof.

If pouring cement is not an option, check some of the websites that sell military and police working dog equipment. There are modular kennel systems on the market that include both top and flooring, but they are pricey. I believe Diamondback Tactical sold those systems but can't find their K-9 stuff on their website right now ... maybe I'm overlooking it?

[Chicagocanine]

Maybe you can do a chain link cube, with a chain link floor attached to the walls and buried under whatever ground surface cover you decide to use?

[Alto]

Once he can no longer go over, he will likely have alot more motivation to go under, same goes if you actually kennel him for any length of time ... depending on the consequences of him getting impounded, I'd be inclined to never have him outside without supervision OR choose an appropriately designed kennel with floor, roof & walls.

[3K9Mom]

Originally Posted By: Cassidys Mom

I agree. Seeing things they can't get to can be very frustrating for a dog - think leash aggression and fence fighting. A solid fence is often a much better solution, but also more expensive. If you're concerned about him being able to get out, a roofed kennel is probably your best bet.

Also concur. Our cedar back yard fencing was partially open slats for a while, so the dogs could see out, and they were more inclined to bark (even with us out there). Once we closed that up completely, they didn't bark nearly as much. Boring is GOOD!

I think in your case, I would be inclined to put up a privacy (closed wood) fence, and then put in an enclosed kennel with a concrete floor and a covered top within the fencing. This way, your pup doesn't have much in the way to distract him (other than your neighborhood squirrels and chipmunks) and lure him from his comfy enclosure. If he somehow does dig his way out of the kennel, you have a second line of defense.

I like the idea of an 8 ft high fence with electric line on top. The electric line helps ensure that you won't have anyone hopping the fence to come into your yard, and it dissuades squirrels, et al from running along your fence (which can drive dogs crazy). Electric lines don't use much electricity, and unlike Invisible Fence, your dog ONLY gets shocked if he manages to climb all the way to the top of the fence. Plus, it isn't reliant upon him wearing that collar, it having operable specialized batteries, etc.

Pricey? Yep. But as you know, so is the alternative.

[Lauri & The Gang]

Originally Posted By: Alto I'd be inclined to never have him outside without supervision

I second that. I would kennel him INSIDE the house.

[Strongheart]

I think we'll start with privacy fence along the busy side of the yard and a heavy duty/gauge chain link kennel with roof and buried mesh floor/maybe asphalt? In the yard and then add more privacy fence as time and funds allow. We may try DIY or may decide we are too old for that.

This has been so great to get all these opinions. I will let u know how things go after I appeal this conviction but am not discussing it publicly yet. Have yet to contact my adopter who is an animal law attorney for some pointers. She owes me a favor :-)