Canidae formula change

StGeorgeK9 · 06-30-2008, 08:19 PM

I just read on the dogfood project that Canidae is changing their formula and will not be gluten free anymore.

http://www.dogfoodproject.com

im4dogz · 06-30-2008, 10:14 PM

I don't get it, I don't see gluten in the new formulas?

3K9Mom · 06-30-2008, 11:57 PM

Thanks Betsy. I'm looking at foods for my new pup and Canidae WAS a finalist.

I really hate barley. Millet too. (Those are two of my GSD's worst allergies. I can't have that stuff anywhere near my house.)

I just sent them an email to let them know they've lost a customer, and that I've always recommended Canidae highly (I fed it to Camper for a long time). No more.

3K9Mom · 07-01-2008, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted By: im4gsdsI don't get it, I don't see gluten in the new formulas?

Hailey, glutens show up in such things as millet and barley. It doesn't specifically say "gluten," in the ingredients list, but these grains have glutens. For dogs that are sensitive to all glutens, or for dogs that have severe grain allergies, these are pretty toxic.

**Chris Wild** · 07-01-2008, 08:35 AM

We found out about the formula changes from the local distributor a couple weeks ago. We've fed this food for years and been very happy with it. No plans to change foods at this time since I still feel it's one of the best foods on the market for the price, and I appreciate Canidae being upfront and letting people know there are impending changes to the formulas before doing it. Will have to see how our dogs do on the food after the formula changes. None of ours have any allergies, so hopefully they still do well.

EastGSD · 07-01-2008, 11:02 AM

They are adding barley? Ugh

That will lose them a number of customers...wonder what provoked them to do that?

Cherri

**angelaw** · 07-01-2008, 01:54 PM

At least they're letting people know in advance. The last 2 times I fed canidae they changed it and denied changing it even though I had proof of them doing it. So at least this is an improvement in that aspect.

Barb E · 07-01-2008, 02:44 PM

I heard about this a couple of weeks ago, almost posted, but since I heard it from my friend I chose not to since it would be 2nd hand info.

I think we'll see more foods going to Barley with the increase in the price of Rice.

Of course, the addition of Barley means that I now have one more food I can't feed to Dante.

Fodder · 07-01-2008, 03:04 PM

i just dumped a new bag of ALS into my dogs food bin yesterday and noticed the kibble is smaller and darker than before. it crossed my mind "hm, i wonder if somethings changed" then ironically i came inside to this thread....

so my question - has the change already occurred or am i seeing things?

i'm with chris, i also plan to stick with canidae (for tilden) until (if) he develops a problem on it.

3K9Mom · 07-01-2008, 03:30 PM

This was the response I got to my email:

http://www.canidae.com/new-formulas.html

That's it. No "Thanks for writing. We'll let marketing/research know your concerns." No "We'll keep your comments in our files for future reference." Nothing.

I've always received personal responses from Canidae til this time. Just a link? That's it? Either they're getting a lot of mail, or they're less interested in customer feedback then they used to be. Kind of disappointing.

Grain-free foods aren't for every dog. Canidae has always filled a great niche in the market. To me, it makes sense to raise the cost of a bag of food a dollar or two than add ingredients that makes it more like all the other stuff. Millet (a major food source in Africa)and barley are also in short supply internationally. It's not just rice, so I'm not sure I buy the "save the rice for poor people" statement.

Oh well. Back to researching and reading ingredients labels...

06-30-2008, 08:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
StGeorgeK9 Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Diamondhead, MS Posts: 1,858	Canidae formula change I just read on the dogfood project that Canidae is changing their formula and will not be gluten free anymore. http://www.dogfoodproject.com __________________ Betsy Ava GSD 3.5yrs Champ 1985, Heidi 2000

06-30-2008, 10:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
im4dogz Knighted Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hemet, CA, USA Posts: 2,226	Re: Canidae formula change I don't get it, I don't see gluten in the new formulas? __________________ Hailey (16) mom to: Tasha - 4 y/o Australian Cattle Dog Chewy - 4 y/o Australian Shepherd Cleo - 8 y/o American Pit Bull Terrier Chase - 18 month old German Shepherd Dog

06-30-2008, 11:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
3K9Mom Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 7,538	Re: Canidae formula change Thanks Betsy. I'm looking at foods for my new pup and Canidae WAS a finalist. I really hate barley. Millet too. (Those are two of my GSD's worst allergies. I can't have that stuff anywhere near my house.) I just sent them an email to let them know they've lost a customer, and that I've always recommended Canidae highly (I fed it to Camper for a long time). No more.

07-01-2008, 08:35 AM	#5 (permalink)
Chris Wild Administrator & Alpha Bitch of the Wild Bunch Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 11,276	Re: Canidae formula change We found out about the formula changes from the local distributor a couple weeks ago. We've fed this food for years and been very happy with it. No plans to change foods at this time since I still feel it's one of the best foods on the market for the price, and I appreciate Canidae being upfront and letting people know there are impending changes to the formulas before doing it. Will have to see how our dogs do on the food after the formula changes. None of ours have any allergies, so hopefully they still do well. __________________ *Wildhaus Kennels* Kaiser ~ SchH3 CGC TDI (HOT) Raven ~ SchH3 AWD2 PD1 P1 PA T1 U-CD URO2 CGC TT (B/HOT) Della ~ SchHA PD1 P1 PA T1 URO1 CGC TT (B/HOT) Wulf ~ SchH1 P1 PDOB1 T1 URO1 CGC TT (B/HOT) Nara ~ CGC Heidi & Hannah ~ The Next Generation

07-01-2008, 11:02 AM	#6 (permalink)
EastGSD Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: NJ Posts: 3,648	Re: Canidae formula change They are adding barley? Ugh That will lose them a number of customers...wonder what provoked them to do that? Cherri __________________ Visit my pet nutrition site Kibble Sense http://www.eastgsd.com/forum http://www.eastgsd.com/kibblesense owned by: GSDs Emma and her GerMercian kids Tobe Aimee And Doxies' Abby and Charlie my Service dude

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07-01-2008, 01:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
angelaw Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Brooksville, FL Posts: 15,182	Re: Canidae formula change At least they're letting people know in advance. The last 2 times I fed canidae they changed it and denied changing it even though I had proof of them doing it. So at least this is an improvement in that aspect. __________________ Angela http://www.vomlandholz.com Hardy Sch3, Diesel, Grace, Oxana Sch2,Jake, Jet, Gala v. Landholz Sch1 Iris & Patches the cats RIP Gaudi, Vishnu, Duchess, Jade

07-01-2008, 02:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
Barb E Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 14,089	Re: Canidae formula change I heard about this a couple of weeks ago, almost posted, but since I heard it from my friend I chose not to since it would be 2nd hand info. I think we'll see more foods going to Barley with the increase in the price of Rice. Of course, the addition of Barley means that I now have one more food I can't feed to Dante. __________________ Dante March 2004 "Everything is as it should be given what has gone before. This isn't an excuse but it is a reason" ~ Dr G & B ~

07-01-2008, 03:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
Fodder Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NoCal-SoCal Posts: 3,855	Re: Canidae formula change i just dumped a new bag of ALS into my dogs food bin yesterday and noticed the kibble is smaller and darker than before. it crossed my mind "hm, i wonder if somethings changed" then ironically i came inside to this thread.... so my question - has the change already occurred or am i seeing things? i'm with chris, i also plan to stick with canidae (for tilden) until (if) he develops a problem on it. __________________ ...mom to gia, tilden & ziggy

07-01-2008, 03:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
3K9Mom Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 7,538	Re: Canidae formula change This was the response I got to my email: http://www.canidae.com/new-formulas.html That's it. No "Thanks for writing. We'll let marketing/research know your concerns." No "We'll keep your comments in our files for future reference." Nothing. I've always received personal responses from Canidae til this time. Just a link? That's it? Either they're getting a lot of mail, or they're less interested in customer feedback then they used to be. Kind of disappointing. Grain-free foods aren't for every dog. Canidae has always filled a great niche in the market. To me, it makes sense to raise the cost of a bag of food a dollar or two than add ingredients that makes it more like all the other stuff. Millet (a major food source in Africa)and barley are also in short supply internationally. It's not just rice, so I'm not sure I buy the "save the rice for poor people" statement. Oh well. Back to researching and reading ingredients labels...