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DutchKarin 06-16-2014 09:31 PM

Which of these two diets would you choose and why?
Hi everyone. Would just value some thoughts on these two kibbles.

Just some background. Have a Dutch Shepherd with GI problems. We have done a lot of testing and medicating so don't need to discuss that. My vet has recommended a food trial as one possibility is food allergy. He is one year old, high energy, and weighs 60 lbs but a bit underweight.. should be around 64 lbs. I started him on Natural Balance Duck and Potato but thought about going a little bit better quality. Am wondering if either of these looks better than the other to you and why? Both rate 4 stars on that food review site.

Food A:

Duck meal, deboned duck*, green lentils, red lentils, duck liver*, pears*, duck fat, green peas, yellow peas, algae, garbanzo beans, pumpkin*, carrots*, freeze-dried
duck liver, kelp, chicory root, ginger root, peppermint leaf, lemon balm, mixed tocopherols (preservative), dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product.

Crude protein (min.) 27%
Crude fat (min.) 15%
Crude fiber (max.) 6.5%
Moisture (max.) 12%
Calcium (min.) 1.3%
Phosphorus (min.) 0.9%
Calcium: Phosphorus Ratio 1.4:1
Omega-6 (min.) 1.6%
LA (min.) 1.5%
Omega 3 (min.) 0.8%
EPA (min.) 0.2%
DHA (min.) 0.1%
Omega 6:Omega 3 ratio 2:1
Glucosamine (min.) 1200 mg/kg
Chondroitin sulfate (min.) 1000 mg/kg

Food B:

Duck meal, oatmeal, potatoes, whole oats, de-boned duck, canola oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), apples, natural flavour, flaxseed, quinoa, calcium carbonate, potassium chloride, sodium chloride, dried kelp, vitamins (vitamin A supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin E supplement, inositol, niacin, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (a source of vitamin C), d-calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate, beta-carotene, riboflavin, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement), minerals (zinc methionine complex, zinc proteinate , iron proteinate, copper proteinate, zinc oxide, manganese proteinate, copper sulphate, ferrous sulphate, calcium iodate, manganous oxide, selenium yeast), dried chicory root, L-lysine, dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product, dried Aspergillus niger fermentation product, dried Aspergillus oryzae fermentation product, yucca schidigera extract, dried rosemary.

Crude protein (min) 22%
Crude fat (min) 12%
Crude fibre (max) 3.5%
Moisture (max) 10%
Calcium (min) 0.9%
Phosphorus (min) 0.65%
*Omega 6 (min) 1.8%
*Omega 3 (min) 0.36%


my boy diesel 06-16-2014 09:50 PM

food a personally because i do not like canola oil at all
it also has more meat and although the lentil overdose adds to the protein levels the protein is higher due also to more meat in it

Pax8 06-17-2014 02:29 AM

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Food A. All the lentils sounds like Innova?

NancyJ 06-17-2014 06:35 AM

This is another option but I would choose A over B. My vet told me, though, a lot of dogs have issues with Duck giving them the runs. I am also no fan of canola oil which is hard to escape.

Duck & Sweet Potato dog food - Fromm Family Foods

Shade 06-17-2014 08:52 AM

#1 simply based on ingredients, more meat and I like seeing actual ingredients rather then a list of suppliments and vitamins

Nancy is right about Fromm's duck recipe being another option

LaRen616 06-17-2014 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by Shade (Post 5650626)
#1 simply based on ingredients, more meat and I like seeing actual ingredients rather then a list of suppliments and vitamins

Nancy is right about Fromm's duck recipe being another option


I choose option A as well based on ingredients.

Alena Gonzalez 06-17-2014 09:19 AM

Birds can be harder to digest than fish. Have you tried a fish base? Out of your 2 I would go with A. Avoiding the canola oil and oats which are both inflammatory

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DutchKarin 06-17-2014 01:16 PM

Thanks everyone. I have heard now several times about duck vs. Fish. Will start the switch to whitefish. He has never had that. Frustrating. He refused the duck this AM.

s14roller 06-17-2014 01:45 PM

Salmon is probably the best bet. With GI issues, my reco would be focus less on the ingredients per se and just find something that works for your dog.

Gretchen 06-17-2014 03:17 PM

I'd choose "B" out of those two. If your dog is having GI issues, I think the lentils and beans from group food "A" would upset your dogs tummy. Those things upset my own stomach and this is what I'm basing my decision on.

The potato in "b" is easy to digest and I have no problems with oatmeal, it may be just enough fiber to push things along. Flaxseed is a good source for omega 3's , good for the coat and reduces inflammation.

We used to think our dog had food allergies, nothing helped then we switched to The Honest Kitchen and she can eat any protein and no more trips to the vet for GI issues.

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