|09-17-2013, 12:15 PM||#1 (permalink)|
Join Date: Aug 2013
What supplements do you use?
What supplements do you use or recommend when feeding raw?
Probiotics? Vitamins? Fish oils etc.?
I'm trying raw again with an allergic dog and proteins will be limited (beef & lamb for now). I want to balance the diet.
All suggestion welcome.
Ziva GSD 3/7/13
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|09-17-2013, 12:38 PM||#2 (permalink)|
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
I use plain greek yogurt with live cultures but also supplement with vitamins and minerals that I get from my vet. He is a holistic vet and supports the raw diet but also wants to ensure it's balanced.
|09-17-2013, 01:07 PM||#3 (permalink)|
Join Date: Dec 2012
My boys get yogurt and coconut oil with breakfast and fish oil, nupro silver, and an egg with dinner. I am sure there are even better supplement combos out there but right now that's what is working for my boys and my budget.
|10-07-2013, 09:03 AM||#4 (permalink)|
Join Date: Mar 2012
Dogs' were designed to get live enzymes from the fresh prey that they killed. Their pancreas only produces a certain amount of enzymes (they didn’t need a lot b/c they ate live foods) and if they are not getting the enzymes they need from their prey’s guts and entrails, they have to get it from somewhere to be able to digest, absorb, and assimilate their food PROPERLY. Not having enough enzymes to do this can create mal-digestion and or mal-absorption in some dogs. The dog may end up only partially digesting its food in the stomach, and partially fermenting it in the gut and not absorbing all the nutrients and vitamins in the food. The dry kibble or the canned foods we feed are cooked at high temperatures so they are depleted of their enzymes and are therefore not living foods. This causes the pancreas to over tax itself trying to keep up, which can eventually weaken it allowing toxins to build up in the system. This is a key time for issues like yeast, pancreatitis, epi, diarrhea, bad breath, doggy order, allergies, arthritis, skin issues and a compromised immune system (to name a few), take hold. Many pet foods get a lot of their “protein” from grains instead of from meat. The dogs system was not designed to digest the complex proteins in grains so this is why a “grain free” diet is better for those dogs with issues. A raw diet would be the best. Also, popular pet foods have wheat, corn or fish meal in them which most likely has been contaminated with Mycotoxins, which are toxins from mold and fungi. Another thing is that most “plant products” today are Genetically Modified (GMO’s) which create inflammatory conditions. And, there are some Bacteria’s called Endotoxins which are not destroyed during the cooking process of kibble. Pet food manufacturers do not test for these toxins. These are things that can also weaken or compromise the gut and/or immune system. A dogs’ gastrointestinal system protects them from allergens. Since 70% of the immune system lies in the digestive tract, a dogs’ immune system HAS to be functioning properly to fight off the allergens. That is why Digestive Enzymes and Probiotics are so very important to your pets.
Here are some great ones:
*Digestive Enzymes by Carmspac on this blog: Sunday Sundae: Contact her and she can explain how to use it:
*Digest All Plus: this is a combination of Digestive Enzymes and Probiotics:
The Wholistic Pet
*For Pets Probiotic:
Pet Probiotics | Optimal Digestive Health for Pets - Mercola.com
*Digestive Enzymes: Healthy Pets Digestive Enzymes for Optimal Digestion - Mercola.com
Hemp Oil: When feeding Beef: provides the linoleic acid that the beef is deficient in since it is not a fresh kill. Overall ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 fatty acids is improved.
Flax Oil: When feeding Fowl: To increase the linoleic acid and the alpha linoleic acid in ratio of 2:1 to 6:1 (make sure your dog is not sensitive to this, my dog is)
2 more things you might want to consider.
1. In Traditional Chinese Medicine Lamb is considered a "HOT" food (Beef is neutral) so you may want to consider Rabbit or Duck instead as they are "Cooling" foods. Per Dr. Chris Bessent:
"Feeding a 'Hot Dog' hot foods (like lamb or venison, which are considered the hottest proteins) is like throwing kerosene on the fire." Here is a TCM chart that might help: hot and cooling foods for pets, yin and yan in dogs, traditional chinese medicine for pets, damp heat in dogs, treating phlegm symptoms in pets, using food to balance yin and yan, allergy remedy for dogs
2. Holistic vets promote a raw diet BUT most agree that raw fed dogs should be given additional supplements. The dog is not eating a "fresh kill" so therefore vital nutrients are lost. I mix my own according to Dr. Karen Becker's recipe from her raw diet book, but here is one that you might want to look at: Animal Essentials Herbal Multi Vitamin for Cats & Dogs-Daily Vitamins, Minerals and Antioxidants
Hope this helps!