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Old 02-07-2013, 07:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Anybody get the email about this. Tractor Supply has 3 new grain free foods.

4health Grain Free Whitefish & Potato Formula for Adult Dogs, 30 lb. Bag - 1046159 | Tractor Supply Company

If any of you Grain free food gurus get a chance I would love to hear some feedback on the quality of this food.
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm not an expert but it looks pretty good. They sell diamond also I wonder the price difference


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Diamond natural 40 lb bag is $36 this 4 health is $37 dollars for 30 lb


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I got that email from TSC as well. I just don't like the fact that it's made by Diamond, because of that I personally wouldn't feed it.
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Just because of the frequent Diamond recalls, they scare me. I had a cat die several years ago from diamond food, back when they did the massive recalls.
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Well, the second ingredient is an unnamed "fish" meal, the the third and fourth ingredients are both peas. There is only one named meat ingredient that I see. It is quite low in caloric content which means your are going to be feeding quite a bit of food to meet the average GSD's daily caloric needs. All in all, it looks like a pretty poor food to me.
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Thank you Ken that is what I was looking for. I am trying to learn about the ingredients in a food and not just feed a "grain free" food because it's grain free.
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Looking at the ingredient list I must say that the meat content in this grain free food is most likely less than 30%. The rest is all peas and potatoes. I am not sure how would animal process Sunflower Oil...Also there is 0% of any fruit in this food. Low Glucosamine and Chondroitin levels, low Omega-3 level (but apparently this is fish based food?). Personally I would stay away from this food. I would only considered it I was not able to afford better type food (little more expensive).

Personally I would rate this type of food with max 3 starts out of 5.
IMHO this food needs more meet content to be considered good.
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These ingredients make up the "majority" of whats in this food. 2 types of peas back to back say this product contains peas as the largest ingredient. Is that bad, not really, but I am not a fan of any vegetable protein. It is a pretty clean dog food. Finding out who supplies their fish meal would be nice. I would send an email to them asking about ethoxyquin . A lot of fish meal contains this and it is faily toxic stuff.

Whitefish, Fish Meal, Pea Protein, Dried Peas, Tapioca, Whole Potato, Sunflower Oil

What is Pea Protein?

Fish Meal
AAFCO: The clean, rendered, dried ground tissue of undecomposed whole fish or fish cuttings, either or both, with or without the extraction of part of the oil.
Like with all other animal sources, if a type isn't specified, you never know what type or quality of fish is used.
According to US Coast Guard regulations, all fish meal not destined for human consumption must be conserved with Ethoxyquin (unless the manufacturer has a special permit). This preservative is banned from use in foods for human consumption except for the use of very small quantities as a color preservative for spices. So unless the manufacturer either presents a permit or states "human grade" fish or fish meal is used, you can be pretty sure Ethoxyquin is present in the food even if it is not listed.



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I am not sure how would animal process Sunflower Oil.
What does this mean? I am an animal and I process sunflower oil quite well. Sunflower oil is mostly oleic and linoleic acid, the same fats found in chicken. They are unsaturated fatty acids and are quite healthy.
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