Orijen's new ingredient's.

[3ToesTonyismydog]

Today I saw the new bag of Orijen with the new ingredient's. I really can't believe that they added more meat, BUT THEY DID. The big difference is the addition of lentils and the removal of potatoes, humm. I am not a big fan of lentils, but not a big fan of potatoes.

Lentil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nutrition Facts and Analysis for Lentils, mature seeds, cooked, boiled, without salt

[Doc]

If Orijen was such a great product, why do they keep changing it?

[doggiedad]

what do mean "was such a great product"? it still is a great
product, isn't it? lol.

Originally Posted by Doc

If Orijen was such a great product, why do they keep changing it?

[Gharrissc]

I still feed my dogs Orijen and they do really well on it.

[Doc]

I do not use the product anymore. My dogs stopped eating it.

[SS-GSD]

I'm not a fan of Orijen, $80+ for fish by-products? No thank you.

[3ToesTonyismydog]

So here we ago again with Orijen bashing, same people, same knowledge level. The first FIFTEEN INGREDIENTS are meat or egg ingredient's, hardly fish by-products...

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[Lauri & The Gang]

No-one is bashing the food - they are simply stating a fact and opinion.

Champion uses fish by-product in their food. Fact.

They do not want to spend alot of money for something that contains fish by-product. Opinion.

[3ToesTonyismydog]

Originally Posted by Lauri & The Gang

No-one is bashing the food - they are simply stating a fact and opinion.

Champion uses fish by-product in their food. Fact.

They do not want to spend alot of money for something that contains fish by-product. Opinion.

See you also are bashing, also. I PERSONALLY CONTACTED AND SAW THE PRODUCT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. The supplier who calls it fish-by-product, then also states, they take, """the by-product""" and removes parts unfit FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION, they then make a fish PRODUCT. If only you people would research your facts to fullest you might get the real true answer to statements that are FALSE.... LOL, I have been there.........

But if you dig a little deeper, you would find that their is NO SUCH THING AS FISH BY-PRODUCTS.... See the FDA site for more AND TRUE information.
Meat by-products are what you are thinking and you are oh so wrong, confusing the fact that their is a fish-by-product.... The supplier is totally misusing the word....

http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/ar/archiv...7/fish0407.pdf

[jocoyn]

This is the article in the supplier's newsletter page 2 right column.

http://www.freshwaterfish.com/system...ter%202011.pdf

Quote from the link:

We began working with Champion in 2005 when we
sent them samples of minced by-products for testing after
it was extracted from fish during the filleting process. Prior
to sending the product to Alberta, we had been paying to
have the waste trucked to a rendering facility in Winnipeg.
After the samples were tested by Champion, a product was
developed that met their high quality specifications.
This business brings in several hundred thousand dollars
in revenue for a product that previously cost us money to
dispose of – and we’re thrilled to be building on a relationship

that dates back more than five years.


I would think if they had human consumable mince it would go into human products, not pet products-and actually had been treated as trash before the relationship with Champion.

Don't get me wrong, I do not have an issue with dogs eating food that is not destined for human tables as dogs have been eating our waste since the relationship between dogs and humans began, and many people have had very good results with their food. I am not sure how the USDA applies in Canada-perhaps you can inform us.

Perhaps some supporting evidence would be nice. It is hard to take anything about a dog food company on faith from a person, about whom you know nothing.