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I know he is not "dogs" but essentially a body is a body .
On the forum we have numerous topics which involve thyroid , as an example. On this program he has 4 experts , unorthodox - but trained and certified in orthodoxy , who offer alternative health plans through food. One of them focuses on thyroid and the need for minerals , found in sunflower seeds , sea - greens among others. Another topic looks at the pancreas - well what is helpful there ? Celery leaves . Jax08 read the lable when your parcel arrives . Many things can be prevented, many things are created through poor diet . have a look at the show , Carmen Carmspack Working German Shepherd Dogs |
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A body is NOT a body when it's between species.
A cat CANNOT live without meat (taurine). A human can. A cow does.
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a body is a body . Cat's have an inability or limited ability to synthesize it from B vitamins or methionine or cysteine. We all need it though. Some dog food companies such as Orijen recognize that adding taurine may help heart development , heart health in breeds troubled with cardiomyopathy , boxers coming to mind.
We need it. In dogs, cardiomyopathy can also occur, leading to congestive heart failure. Preliminary work shows that supplementation with taurine may be beneficial in American Cocker Spaniels and Golden Retrievers with dilated cardiomyopathy. Supplementation with taurine (500 mg twice daily) and L-carnitine (1,000 mg twice daily) in a small number of dogs with low plasma taurine levels resulted in improvement in a few of the patients. While not all doctors agree, many practitioners feel that since American Cocker Spaniels are predisposed to dilated cardiomyopathy with concurrent taurine and (possibly) carnitine deficiencies, supplementation with these two compounds is suggested for Cocker Spaniels with dilated cardiomyopathy. Dogs with chronic valvular disease, the most common heart disease reported in dogs, usually have normal plasma taurine levels, making routine supplementation unlikely to be of benefit (although supplementation would not be harmful). Taurine deficiency can be diagnosed based upon testing levels in the blood. Plasma levels are more indicative of recent taurine intake; whole blood levels are more suggestive of chronic taurine intake. However, even with normal blood levels, it is possible that levels of taurine in the heart muscle cells might not be adequate. Even for those pets without low blood taurine levels, supplementation can be tried without side effects. In people, taurine has additionally been proposed as a treatment for numerous other conditions, including heart attack (to prevent dangerous disturbances in heart rhythm), stroke, hypertension, epilepsy, gallbladder disease, alcoholism, cataracts, multiple sclerosis, psoriasis, and diabetes. The evidence for using taurine to treat these disorders is weak and, in some cases, contradictory. Taurine has also been recommended for pets with epilepsy. However, the only evidence to date is experimental. Still, since taurine supplementation will not hurt the pet, it can be added to the therapeutic regimen for epileptic pets following your veterinarian's advice the above is from vet, Dr Shawn Messonier -The Natural Health Bible for Dogs and Cats . which I have out on loan at the moment but will say it is well worn. Body systems basically work the same. watch the show see what interesting information you can pick up. Carmen |
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It definitely is interesting. I have revisited my health. I dropped 65lbs last year only to gain back 30 this year -- excuses excuses --. The vegetarian thread put me back on track.
I do believe some meat is ok but our diet is sooooo deficient in potassium and high in sodium. and forget all those phytonutrients not captured in manufactured vitimins. So I started eating tons of kale, spinich arugula and cooked vegetables .....and fresh fruit. I was feeling headachy and muddy on Sunday and my "danger will Robinson" BP was 145/95! The past few days of eating deliberatly and it has been running around 100/65 and I feel cleaner. 1200 calories, close to 40 grams of fiber a day and I feel pretty good and the headaches are gone. Back on track. I do think we *should* eat some animal products but many vegetarians consume way too much dairy and processed grain - so I came up with a morning delight (and it is pretty cool sounds nasty - 4cups chopped kale, 1 banana, half cup kefir - blend until smooth. Nice way to start the day.
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wow - Nancy "jocoyn" that is impressive .
"lazy" vegetarians rely too much on pasta - pastatarian , new word or just make a so-so meal sans meat . This episode of Oz "Friday, Jan. 13 - Disease Detectives with the New Power to Heal; four top-notch doctors give advice" worth watching . |
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(I love kefir!) ...and I DO eat a lot of veggies, I guess not enough. Last edited by BlackPuppy; 01-13-2012 at 03:50 PM. |
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ALL of those will go up with a lot of dark leafy greens-I still need to be looking at adding a little calcium source, more B12 (and I may also take a pill there), and Vitamin D
Some of Yesterday's values: potassium=3567mg sodium=796mg fiber=37 grams Vitamin A=1078% (realize that is vegetable source precursor so safe) Vitamin C=857% Calcium=100% Now my BP - well everyone won't have those results - I am, in fact, sodium sensitive and that is not true for everyone. Today I learned that PARSLEY is am amazing source of potassium! I mean outrageously so. You really have to frappe the dickens out of the smoothie. Peel and slice the bananas and freeze them to have a cold smoothie.
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yes on parsley --
b-12 from mushrooms , tempeh , sea vegetables , CHLORELLA , oysters, clams rate high billing -- I had clam chowder and added drained baby clams to bulk it up a bit - cream or Manhattan style either , eggs , mackerel . Calcium - great source is sesame seed, sesame seed paste, tahini . I think they even mentioned this on Oz today. for blood pressure not just potassium -- look to magnesium which relaxes - also omega 3 and very important and always over looked hydration - good clean water . Dehydration increases blood pressure as blood becomes more solid . |
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