Question about Citric Acid and pre-soaking kibble

[jprice103]

I know that they say that you shouldn't pre-soak dry foods containing Citric Acid due to the risk of bloat. My question is if you add a little water to make a gravy, but then feed immediately (don't allow the kibble to soak) is that a risk also? I add a little canned tripe to my dog's food, and add about 1/8 cup of water to mix the tripe in and make a tripe gravy...and then immediately feed. Is that considered pre-soaking? Am I putting my dog at risk??

[VegasResident]

If there is one thing that is a mixed bag of advice, it is about bloat. and what causes it Whether it is ingredients or whether to raise or lower the bowl.

What brand do you use? Making gravy with the tripe and adding it to the kibble I think is not the same as soaking. Otherwise you could not let your dog drink before or after a meal and most do But that is my opinion only.

[kiya]

I add some warm water to my dogs dinner, I've done this for about 20yrs. I personally never had a problem. Breakfast is a smaller portion so I give it to them dry.
When I was little I remember my grandmother soaking Alpo kibble for the dogs. All of her dogs lived very long lives (too long for some), how they survived and were healthy on Alpo I'll never know.

[jprice103]

Originally Posted by VegasResident

If there is one thing that is a mixed bag of advice, it is about bloat. and what causes it Whether it is ingredients or whether to raise or lower the bowl.

What brand do you use? Making gravy with the tripe and adding it to the kibble I think is not the same as soaking. Otherwise you could not let your dog drink before or after a meal and most do But that is my opinion only.

Yes, bloat, and all of the unknowns about it, scares the crap out of me!

I use Life's Abundance dog food. It is an AMAZING food, and Cheyenne is doing really well on it! It is the first food that she has eaten as soon as I put the bowl down, and I've been through several brands before this (Blue Buffalo, Nature's Variety, Fromm, Solid Gold, etc)! The ONLY thing that I don't like is that it has Citric Acid. Really wish they didn't add that!

But you are correct, I would think that the amount of water that I add is probably less than what she drinks either before or after. And since she eats it the second I put it down, it really never gets a chance to absorb the water.

[jprice103]

Originally Posted by kiya

I add some warm water to my dogs dinner, I've done this for about 20yrs. I personally never had a problem. Breakfast is a smaller portion so I give it to them dry.
When I was little I remember my grandmother soaking Alpo kibble for the dogs. All of her dogs lived very long lives (too long for some), how they survived and were healthy on Alpo I'll never know.

Does your food contain Citric Acid?

[gsdraven]

Originally Posted by jprice103

The ONLY thing that I don't like is that it has Citric Acid. Really wish they didn't add that!

You should bring this up to Amy tonight. I know she said something specifically about bloat and the food last week but I can't remember what it was.

[VegasResident]

Originally Posted by jprice103

Yes, bloat, and all of the unknowns about it, scares the crap out of me!

I use Life's Abundance dog food. It is an AMAZING food, and Cheyenne is doing really well on it! It is the first food that she has eaten as soon as I put the bowl down, and I've been through several brands before this (Blue Buffalo, Nature's Variety, Fromm, Solid Gold, etc)! The ONLY thing that I don't like is that it has Citric Acid. Really wish they didn't add that!

But you are correct, I would think that the amount of water that I add is probably less than what she drinks either before or after. And since she eats it the second I put it down, it really never gets a chance to absorb the water.

Stupid question, but I do not see citric acid in the Life Abundance premium

[VegasResident]

Originally Posted by kiya

I add some warm water to my dogs dinner, I've done this for about 20yrs. I personally never had a problem. Breakfast is a smaller portion so I give it to them dry.
When I was little I remember my grandmother soaking Alpo kibble for the dogs. All of her dogs lived very long lives (too long for some), how they survived and were healthy on Alpo I'll never know.

My GSD growing up was on the same, Alpo or whatever the grocery brand was, plus pancakes on Sundays. The only thing my dad added was bone meal. She lived to 13

[jprice103]

Originally Posted by VegasResident

Stupid question, but I do not see citric acid in the Life Abundance premium

I didn't think it had it either, but it is in the Vitamins section:

Vitamins: Ascorbic Acid, vitamin E Supplement, Inositol, Niacin Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Citric Acid, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Folic Acid.

This is right from the website.

[jprice103]

Originally Posted by gsdraven

You should bring this up to Amy tonight. I know she said something specifically about bloat and the food last week but I can't remember what it was.

Will do. I'd like to hear what she has to say. See you tonight!