Hypoallergenic Diets

cci058 · 11-17-2011, 10:23 PM

Hello All. We have a 17 month old beautiful German Shepherd. She had GI problems from the day we brought her home. After months of frustration, we determined she was allergic to all poultry and dairy. We now feed her grain free Canidae Bison and lamb and does pretty well. She gets freeze dried bison treats, vension jerky treats and Natural Balance LID treats too. She has improved ALOT and has normal stools. Her coat is beautiful and soft. We give her a probiotic, a digestive enzyme, a daily vitamin and a GI support pill. All are purchased from Only Natural Pet in CO. I highly recommend their products. The concern is, she is still itching her paws, licking her bottom and getting red ears. It isn't horrible, but often enough to notice. She has alot of wet burps too. I'm thinking she may still be allergic to something, maybe the bison and lamb too? I'm looking at hypoallergenic diets, but will not feed Prescription Diet from the vet. I may try a salmon based food. Any comments, experience or thoughts about Raw Addiction, Natural Balance or California Natural? Or... any other suggestions? I've never fed raw and would need to research that and learn about it. Thanks for any insight you share!

TGordy · 11-17-2011, 10:29 PM

I have an 8 yr GSD old that has recently developed allergies, itchy skin, constant scratching. We did an elimination diet with the vet for several months. He is finally on Earthborn Holistic Grain Free Coastal Catch. It is wonderful. He has been on it about 2 months and is a different dog. I tried to keep him away from chicken, which is difficult even in fish based products. This one is wonderful. He has also had several yeast infections in his ears in the past, which can also be related to food. This food has no yeast, either. I think this one is going to be a winner! I cannot get it locally here, which stinks, but I can get online with no problem.

cci058 · 11-17-2011, 10:46 PM

Thank you for the response. I've never heard of that food, but I'm certainly going to look into it!

sable123 · 11-18-2011, 08:21 AM

The best food for this type of dog is Annamaet Option, which is catfish and venison.

It is NOT a prescription diet and is rated 'all life stages", so pups can eat it as well.

If you can't find it locally, then petfooddirect can ship it. I would find out who the midwest distributor is and see if any stores close to you deal with that distributor. Even if the store doesn't carry it, it can order the food.

The use of catfish since this food was developed by Annamaet has expanded because of its very low histamine response.

4TheDawgies · 11-18-2011, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sable123

The best food for this type of dog is Annamaet Option, which is catfish and venison.

It is NOT a prescription diet and is rated 'all life stages", so pups can eat it as well.

If you can't find it locally, then petfooddirect can ship it. I would find out who the midwest distributor is and see if any stores close to you deal with that distributor. Even if the store doesn't carry it, it can order the food.

Sable could you please explain why you feel this is the best diet for this situation over other foods?

carmspack · 11-18-2011, 08:53 AM

chances are the probiotics are not comprehensive enough or lack viable bacteria , or are not given in the best way.

what are the digestive enzymes.
what are the probiotics .

what essential fatty acids is the dog getting.

Carmen
Carmspack Working German Shepherd Dogs

sable123 · 11-18-2011, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4TheDawgies

Sable could you please explain why you feel this is the best diet for this situation over other foods?

Because unlike many of the phony baloney LID diets this was developed by experts in the field along with Annamaet. It has a very solid scientific foundation in that catfish unlike many other animal protein does not illicit a major histamine response. Histamine is what causes the body to overreact to foreign molecules. Most drugs like Benedryl are "anti-histamine" compounds, so they block histamine.

It was also developed to be a life-long product unlike prescription diets.

Annamaet is a REAL pet food company, been around over 25 years and never once has advertised or stooped to bogus marketing claims.

Trust me, if diet can address your problem you have the best shot with this food.

It was also developed with the understanding that 9.99 times out of 10 GRAIN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ALLERGIES.

Experts made it, not marketing companies.

Catfish is as novel a protein as you will find.

sable123 · 11-18-2011, 09:14 AM

Natural Balance LID BISON 20/10.

Look at the BS ingredient list. This food is pretty much a vegetarian food. There is virtually no animal protein in this.

Sweet Potatoes, Bison, Potato Protein, Pea Protein, Canola Oil (preserved with natural mixed tocopherols), Dicalcium Phosphate, Potato Fiber, Natural Flavor, Calcium Carbonate, Sodium Chloride, Salmon Oil (a source of DHA), Choline Chloride, Taurine, Natural Mixed Tocopherols, Vitamin E Supplement, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Potassium Iodide, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B-1), Manganese Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Niacin, Calcium Pantothenate, Manganese Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B-6), Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2), Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Folic Acid.

cci058 · 11-18-2011, 12:32 PM

Here is what we give her:

Probiotic http://www.pro-lif.com/dog.html
Digestive enzyme
http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/products/Only-Natural-Pet-Vital-Digest/999170.aspx
Just started this salmon oil today
http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/products/Only-Natural-Pet-Pure-Salmon-Oil/999060.aspx
daily vitamin
http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/products/Only-Natural-Pet-Super-Daily-Canine-Multi-Vitamins/999010.1.aspx
GI support - I swear by this product.
http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/products/Only-Natural-Pet-GI-Support/999044.aspx
Since starting these products about 30 days ago (except salmon oil started today) she has improved drastically. Her coat is extremely soft and shiny, her breath doesn't stink and her energy is over the top. Her stool is almost perfect. She is a very happy dog. She had a fight with SIBO a few months back, we seem to have overcome that with Metro. Tested for EPI twice just to be sure. Her numbers are great. She just has the itching and licking and intermittent trouble with the ears. Would love to hear any and all insight.

Queeny · 11-18-2011, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sable123

Because unlike many of the phony baloney LID diets this was developed by experts in the field along with Annamaet. It has a very solid scientific foundation in that catfish unlike many other animal protein does not illicit a major histamine response. Histamine is what causes the body to overreact to foreign molecules. Most drugs like Benedryl are "anti-histamine" compounds, so they block histamine.

It was also developed to be a life-long product unlike prescription diets.

Annamaet is a REAL pet food company, been around over 25 years and never once has advertised or stooped to bogus marketing claims.

Trust me, if diet can address your problem you have the best shot with this food.

It was also developed with the understanding that 9.99 times out of 10 GRAIN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ALLERGIES.

Experts made it, not marketing companies.

Catfish is as novel a protein as you will find.

Hi

i'll think Annamaet food is much more Calibrate for a GSD than Earthborn Holistic Grain Free Coastal Catch

The main reason is because Earthborn Holistic Grain Free Coastal Catch have %protein to high!!!! Cat's need more protein than dog and cat food are about 35%-42%

I'll think to much protein in a GSD will over age the stomac liver digest system ect ect...

So Sable your are up to date all the way with Annamaet...

11-17-2011, 10:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
cci058 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Muskego WI Posts: 54	Hypoallergenic Diets Hello All. We have a 17 month old beautiful German Shepherd. She had GI problems from the day we brought her home. After months of frustration, we determined she was allergic to all poultry and dairy. We now feed her grain free Canidae Bison and lamb and does pretty well. She gets freeze dried bison treats, vension jerky treats and Natural Balance LID treats too. She has improved ALOT and has normal stools. Her coat is beautiful and soft. We give her a probiotic, a digestive enzyme, a daily vitamin and a GI support pill. All are purchased from Only Natural Pet in CO. I highly recommend their products. The concern is, she is still itching her paws, licking her bottom and getting red ears. It isn't horrible, but often enough to notice. She has alot of wet burps too. I'm thinking she may still be allergic to something, maybe the bison and lamb too? I'm looking at hypoallergenic diets, but will not feed Prescription Diet from the vet. I may try a salmon based food. Any comments, experience or thoughts about Raw Addiction, Natural Balance or California Natural? Or... any other suggestions? I've never fed raw and would need to research that and learn about it. Thanks for any insight you share!

11-18-2011, 08:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
sable123 Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,233	The best food for this type of dog is Annamaet Option, which is catfish and venison. It is NOT a prescription diet and is rated 'all life stages", so pups can eat it as well. If you can't find it locally, then petfooddirect can ship it. I would find out who the midwest distributor is and see if any stores close to you deal with that distributor. Even if the store doesn't carry it, it can order the food. The use of catfish since this food was developed by Annamaet has expanded because of its very low histamine response. Last edited by sable123; 11-18-2011 at 08:31 AM.

11-17-2011, 10:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
TGordy New Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2	I have an 8 yr GSD old that has recently developed allergies, itchy skin, constant scratching. We did an elimination diet with the vet for several months. He is finally on Earthborn Holistic Grain Free Coastal Catch. It is wonderful. He has been on it about 2 months and is a different dog. I tried to keep him away from chicken, which is difficult even in fish based products. This one is wonderful. He has also had several yeast infections in his ears in the past, which can also be related to food. This food has no yeast, either. I think this one is going to be a winner! I cannot get it locally here, which stinks, but I can get online with no problem.

11-17-2011, 10:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
cci058 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Muskego WI Posts: 54	Thank you for the response. I've never heard of that food, but I'm certainly going to look into it!

11-18-2011, 08:53 AM	#6 (permalink)
carmspack Knighted Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: ontario - Posts: 3,325	chances are the probiotics are not comprehensive enough or lack viable bacteria , or are not given in the best way. what are the digestive enzymes. what are the probiotics . what essential fatty acids is the dog getting. Carmen Carmspack Working German Shepherd Dogs

11-18-2011, 09:14 AM	#8 (permalink)
sable123 Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,233	Natural Balance LID BISON 20/10. Look at the BS ingredient list. This food is pretty much a vegetarian food. There is virtually no animal protein in this. Sweet Potatoes, Bison, Potato Protein, Pea Protein, Canola Oil (preserved with natural mixed tocopherols), Dicalcium Phosphate, Potato Fiber, Natural Flavor, Calcium Carbonate, Sodium Chloride, Salmon Oil (a source of DHA), Choline Chloride, Taurine, Natural Mixed Tocopherols, Vitamin E Supplement, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Potassium Iodide, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B-1), Manganese Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Niacin, Calcium Pantothenate, Manganese Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B-6), Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2), Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Folic Acid.

11-18-2011, 12:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
cci058 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Muskego WI Posts: 54	Here is what we give her: Probiotic http://www.pro-lif.com/dog.html Digestive enzyme http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/products/Only-Natural-Pet-Vital-Digest/999170.aspx Just started this salmon oil today http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/products/Only-Natural-Pet-Pure-Salmon-Oil/999060.aspx daily vitamin http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/products/Only-Natural-Pet-Super-Daily-Canine-Multi-Vitamins/999010.1.aspx GI support - I swear by this product. http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/products/Only-Natural-Pet-GI-Support/999044.aspx Since starting these products about 30 days ago (except salmon oil started today) she has improved drastically. Her coat is extremely soft and shiny, her breath doesn't stink and her energy is over the top. Her stool is almost perfect. She is a very happy dog. She had a fight with SIBO a few months back, we seem to have overcome that with Metro. Tested for EPI twice just to be sure. Her numbers are great. She just has the itching and licking and intermittent trouble with the ears. Would love to hear any and all insight.

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