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Old 11-09-2011, 09:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So I am currently feeding earthborn holistic grainfree and also go! Natural endurance formula. They are both high in protein with go! Being 34% and earthborn about 38%. I am looking to switch to a grain inclusive food and see how my dogs do as I have only fed a grainfree and I feel our coats are slighty thin and dull. I have heard many great things about
Fromm, and looking at there formulas, I think
I would feed the gold lineup. My question is would there
Be anything wrong feeding the puppy food? It has a higher kcal count and also higher in fat and protein. My
Dogs are active and on the thin
Side and I like the higher protein and at levels over the adult formula. thoughts? Thoughts on Fromm?
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So I am currently feeding earthborn holistic grainfree and also go! Natural endurance formula. They are both high in protein with go! Being 34% and earthborn about 38%. I am looking to switch to a grain inclusive food and see how my dogs do as I have only fed a grainfree and I feel our coats are slighty thin and dull. I have heard many great things about
Fromm, and looking at there formulas, I think
I would feed the gold lineup. My question is would there
Be anything wrong feeding the puppy food? It has a higher kcal count and also higher in fat and protein. My
Dogs are active and on the thin
Side and I like the higher protein and at levels over the adult formula. thoughts? Thoughts on Fromm?
If your dogs are thin and active none of the Fromm formulas are good choices, despite being a very fine line of foods.

Feed a performance food with about 20% fat and you will be happy:

1) Annamaet Ultra
2) Dr. Tim's Pursuit
3) Native 3
4) Enhance 30/22
5) Eagle Power Pack
6) Euk Premium 30/20
7) Precise Endurance
8) Redpaw

These are in no particular order but 1), 2) 3) & 7) would be my first choices. 4) Is also very good. In fact I am told Petfooddirect.com is shipping that one free.

It is not just the GA that makes these better. They are designed for just what you are talking about.

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A higher protein is not necessarily a better quality. In my personal experience I haven't been a fan of earthborn. I found the same problem you are mentioning. Thin and dull coats.
I would recommend going to a diet that doesn't only pay attention to being grain free.

Is there a reason why you want to go to a food with grains in it? Is it just because you are noticing the dull coats? I havent looked at ingredients and analysis of earthborn in a long time but I will say this. It's common in dog foods to find a lack in essential fatty acids. Often times bags will have the percentages listed, but what they don't explain is the lack of amylase in the dogs system and the short digestive track, prevents a carnivore from making use of the omega 3 & 6 fatty acids. The only fatty acids they can make use of is when it comes from an animal. I forget the name of the two different kinds of omega 3 & 6 fatty acids. But there is a difference between when it comes from say a fish versus a plant.

So while the food may say it contains the fatty acids, it is not available to the dog.

This can be resolved one of two ways. Supplement with a proper omega 3 & 6 supplement. (Salmon oil is my personal favorite)
Or switch to a food that uses fatty acids that a dogs system can make use of.
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I use Fromm Adult Gold and love it. Its the only food Gunny can tolerate. I have it auto shipped to the house every month and love that too!

I've seen other posts regarding Adult vs. Puppy food and will let the experts here comment on that.
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The "puppy" food is nothing more than a label. You could use it with no issues. There is virtually no difference between the two beside the protein and fat.

I still don't believe it will solve your problem.

It is pricey for what you get too.
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A higher protein is not necessarily a better quality. In my personal experience I haven't been a fan of earthborn. I found the same problem you are mentioning. Thin and dull coats.
I would recommend going to a diet that doesn't only pay attention to being grain free.

Is there a reason why you want to go to a food with grains in it? Is it just because you are noticing the dull coats? I havent looked at ingredients and analysis of earthborn in a long time but I will say this. It's common in dog foods to find a lack in essential fatty acids. Often times bags will have the percentages listed, but what they don't explain is the lack of amylase in the dogs system and the short digestive track, prevents a carnivore from making use of the omega 3 & 6 fatty acids. The only fatty acids they can make use of is when it comes from an animal. I forget the name of the two different kinds of omega 3 & 6 fatty acids. But there is a difference between when it comes from say a fish versus a plant.

So while the food may say it contains the fatty acids, it is not available to the dog.

This can be resolved one of two ways. Supplement with a proper omega 3 & 6 supplement. (Salmon oil is my personal favorite)
Or switch to a food that uses fatty acids that a dogs system can make use of.

The carb level is red herring issue. A food with 30% protein and 20% fat is by definition "low carbs", lower than most grain frees.

You are referring to ALA in Flax. It is not as good as fish sourced EPA & DHA.

Coat quality is more complex than just omega 3's, the ratio of 6:3 is much more important, as is the type of protein and level of ash. In general, high ash food ruins coats.

The best coats I have seen are from Annamaet, Dr. Tim's and Precise. Also, Pro Plan.

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Old 11-09-2011, 09:48 AM   #7 (permalink)
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The pink bag puppy gold is 27% protein and 18% fat.
I have switched my other dogs to Fromm after Beau came eating it and really like it

Yes I am paying more for the grain free surf and turf right now but I may just go to the puppy gold All the gold formulas are slight variations of one another.
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I've fed the Fromm Gold LBP (light blue bag) since bringing my pup home. He's pretty skinny because he's very active and has a very fast metabolism. We're still on puppy food at 15 months of age because I see no reason to go off of it. I've had no issues and a very good coat, this is also my first shepherd so I have nothing to compare him to. But to me he looks great.
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For those that are feeding Fromm, how much are you paying?
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My dog has been on Fromm since the day he started eating solid food. He loves it, and does extremely well on it. My daughter switched her dog from Blue Buffalo to Fromm. Her dog was a picky eater and now he eats his food with no problem. My sister just switched her dog from Taste of the Wild to Fromm and he is doing much better on the Fromm.
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