New Tractorr Supply dog food - Page 2

Gib Laut · 03-03-2010, 09:28 PM

Just looking at the ingredients alone, it's a middle of the line product. Better than the average grocery store but no where near the highest quality foods available such as Orijen, Wellness CORE and Innova EVO. Being in Canada I don't know the pricing differences.

As far as ingredients, it is very grain heavy; though I prefer a grain free product as I don't believe in grains as a natural part of the canine diet. I would prefer to see whole fresh egg instead of egg product and I find the added salt unwanted and unnecessary. I don't like the inclusion of beet pulp, it is a controversial ingredient. Some believe it is a cheap filler, while others feel it is useful source of fiber. Personally, I believe there are better options available and dislike its use in pet food. I may have missed it but I was unable to locate a guarantee from the manufacturer that the product is Ethoxyqin free. To me that's an issue due to the possible connection to cancer.

Just my thoughts....

Emoore · 03-04-2010, 10:31 AM

Kinda funny, when I joined this board in 2002 (I was feeding Purina Dog Chow at the time) everybody was all over Nutro Natural Choice and what a good dog food it was. A LOT of the people on here fed it. I remember when I switched on the advice of several people on the board I almost fell over at how much it cost compared to Purina. 4Health is quite a bit better than Nutro NC and now, 8 years later everyone's like "well, it's made at the Diamond plant and I haven't seen their ethoxyquin guarantee." Interesting how times change.

FuryanGoddess · 03-04-2010, 10:40 AM

yep, I have to wonder if the dog food thing isn't taken a bit too far. 2# a lb for dog food, that's what I pay... and that's cheap for Orijen...

My sister has fed her dog nothing but Puppy/Dog Chow all her life. She's now 13 and still has quite a spring in her step for being an old bitch. Was she lucky? Eahhh, I find that hard to believe because, that would mean that there are a LOT of "lucky" dogs out there.

I just got a 5$ off coupon from TS. I'm gonna try this and see how it goes. Even if it is 'grain heavy' it's a **** of a lot better than what I USED to feed my dogs... yeah, can you say it??? Dad's... that's right. The cheap crap...

As of right now, Zeva hasn't shown me any reason she can have some grains in her diet. Does that make me a bad dog owner? Maybe in some ppls eyes... who knows, maybe, probably, but there are worse things that you can do to a dog than feed it a non top of the line food... Who knows, she might hate it, she might love it... only way to know for sure is to try it. Maybe I'll get the 4heath and it'll make the 95% canned easier to swallow and I can use it to coat her food every meal, because she seems to like the moist stuff better.

Emoore · 03-10-2010, 01:35 PM

Just wanted to add that I've successfully switched two dogs to the 4Health and they seem to be doing great. I'm using the High Performance Formula (with the GSP on the front) which has 30% protein.

Smithie86 · 04-11-2010, 11:07 AM

FYI..

4health is the private label brand of TOTW. Which is also from Diamond.

HeidiW · 04-17-2010, 04:43 PM

Is this bad/crap ?? Just saw this food at the TSC called Hi Protein by Retriever is is really cheap claims 27 % protein.
Dog Food; 50 lbs Size; High Protein Type; Calcium Phosphorus, Vitamin A & Omega 6 Fatty Acids

FuryanGoddess · 04-17-2010, 05:08 PM

Zeva has been on the Puppy food for about six wks now. She's just as shinny and healthy as before. She actually eats this better than she did the Orijen. I plan on sticking w/ it. It's so much better priced and I've had no problems w/ it at all. We might be adding another pup to the household and w/ this food, it makes it more of a possibility than w/ the Orijen. 35lbs for 25-30 dollars.. can't beat that.

Some don't like it because it's made by Diamond, but.. so far, I'm happy w/ it.

roxy84 · 04-17-2010, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeidiW

Is this bad/crap ?? Just saw this food at the TSC called Hi Protein by Retriever is is really cheap claims 27 % protein.
Dog Food; 50 lbs Size; High Protein Type; Calcium Phosphorus, Vitamin A & Omega 6 Fatty Acids

here is the product page:

Retriever® Hi Protein Dog Food - 2250059 | Tractor Supply Company

gives ingredients as: Natural ingredients and Vitamins?????????

27% protein doesnt mean much if a majority of the protein is coming from low quality (ie non meat) ingredients.

i remember seeing Retriever Hi Protein repeatedly during 08 recalls (think they were then part of Mars Petcare). i found a poster on another thread who said he got 50 lbs for $19.99. i could almost guarantee what the main ingredients are for food selling at $.40/lb.

HeidiW · 04-17-2010, 05:21 PM

Yea, I cant find the ingredients online, so it is a mystery, looking for something good and at a good cost. Maybe I will go visit the store and read the bag some day.

Fury your dogs are on it so far so good?

alaman · 04-17-2010, 05:27 PM

I put 3 dogs on it that I was feeding Blue Buffalo and kept 3 on BB. Cannot tell the difference. In fact, comparing ingredients of same cannot see much difference Both rated 4* by the rating system cited above

03-03-2010, 09:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
Gib Laut Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Muskoka, Ontario Posts: 417	Just looking at the ingredients alone, it's a middle of the line product. Better than the average grocery store but no where near the highest quality foods available such as Orijen, Wellness CORE and Innova EVO. Being in Canada I don't know the pricing differences. As far as ingredients, it is very grain heavy; though I prefer a grain free product as I don't believe in grains as a natural part of the canine diet. I would prefer to see whole fresh egg instead of egg product and I find the added salt unwanted and unnecessary. I don't like the inclusion of beet pulp, it is a controversial ingredient. Some believe it is a cheap filler, while others feel it is useful source of fiber. Personally, I believe there are better options available and dislike its use in pet food. I may have missed it but I was unable to locate a guarantee from the manufacturer that the product is Ethoxyqin free. To me that's an issue due to the possible connection to cancer. Just my thoughts.... __________________ Dexter-male, sable GSD, 2 yr. old rescue "My impetus is an unfulfillable debt to animals entrusted to my care before I recognized the extent of our advanced industrial and societal hypocrisy (i.e. the extent of my own ignorance and participation)." -Euan Fingal RIP Kato- 12 yrs, GSD, forever my friend Kelsey- 15 yrs, GSD, an inspiration

03-04-2010, 10:31 AM	#12 (permalink)
Emoore Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North DFW, TX Posts: 1,546	Kinda funny, when I joined this board in 2002 (I was feeding Purina Dog Chow at the time) everybody was all over Nutro Natural Choice and what a good dog food it was. A LOT of the people on here fed it. I remember when I switched on the advice of several people on the board I almost fell over at how much it cost compared to Purina. 4Health is quite a bit better than Nutro NC and now, 8 years later everyone's like "well, it's made at the Diamond plant and I haven't seen their ethoxyquin guarantee." Interesting how times change. __________________ Owned by: ATX Rocky Road 4/2002 Cash Money Vom Tierheim 10/2006

03-04-2010, 10:40 AM	#13 (permalink)
FuryanGoddess Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: PA Posts: 1,268	yep, I have to wonder if the dog food thing isn't taken a bit too far. 2# a lb for dog food, that's what I pay... and that's cheap for Orijen... My sister has fed her dog nothing but Puppy/Dog Chow all her life. She's now 13 and still has quite a spring in her step for being an old bitch. Was she lucky? Eahhh, I find that hard to believe because, that would mean that there are a LOT of "lucky" dogs out there. I just got a 5$ off coupon from TS. I'm gonna try this and see how it goes. Even if it is 'grain heavy' it's a **** of a lot better than what I USED to feed my dogs... yeah, can you say it??? Dad's... that's right. The cheap crap... As of right now, Zeva hasn't shown me any reason she can have some grains in her diet. Does that make me a bad dog owner? Maybe in some ppls eyes... who knows, maybe, probably, but there are worse things that you can do to a dog than feed it a non top of the line food... Who knows, she might hate it, she might love it... only way to know for sure is to try it. Maybe I'll get the 4heath and it'll make the 95% canned easier to swallow and I can use it to coat her food every meal, because she seems to like the moist stuff better. __________________ Zeva Female GSD 10/02/2009 http://www.dogster.com/dogs/1090361 Murphy male GSD 4/9/2010 Waiting at the Bridge: Buddy ~ GSD/Husky mix 1/00 Sadie ~ GSD 10/05 Lady ~ GSD 5/09 Pepper ~ Beagle 12/09

03-10-2010, 01:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
Emoore Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North DFW, TX Posts: 1,546	Just wanted to add that I've successfully switched two dogs to the 4Health and they seem to be doing great. I'm using the High Performance Formula (with the GSP on the front) which has 30% protein. __________________ Owned by: ATX Rocky Road 4/2002 Cash Money Vom Tierheim 10/2006

04-11-2010, 11:07 AM	#15 (permalink)
Smithie86 Knighted Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Nashville, TN and Budapest HU Posts: 2,987	FYI.. 4health is the private label brand of TOTW. Which is also from Diamond. __________________ Sue www.k9imports.com http://www.marketamerica.com/szilasi

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04-17-2010, 04:43 PM	#16 (permalink)
HeidiW Knighted Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 2,830	Is this bad/crap ?? Just saw this food at the TSC called Hi Protein by Retriever is is really cheap claims 27 % protein. Dog Food; 50 lbs Size; High Protein Type; Calcium Phosphorus, Vitamin A & Omega 6 Fatty Acids __________________ Heidi, human mom to Daisy, 5 yr JRT Bella, 2 yr GSD Bo, 1 yr GSD Rest in Peace, Kasey, GSD Shelter 8/96-12/07 at the Bridge Patches, CS Shelter 4/93-4/05 at the Bridge Keisha, GSD 12/87-10/96 at the Bridge Tarsha, GSD my sweet 16 BD at the Bridge

04-17-2010, 05:08 PM	#17 (permalink)
FuryanGoddess Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: PA Posts: 1,268	Zeva has been on the Puppy food for about six wks now. She's just as shinny and healthy as before. She actually eats this better than she did the Orijen. I plan on sticking w/ it. It's so much better priced and I've had no problems w/ it at all. We might be adding another pup to the household and w/ this food, it makes it more of a possibility than w/ the Orijen. 35lbs for 25-30 dollars.. can't beat that. Some don't like it because it's made by Diamond, but.. so far, I'm happy w/ it. __________________ Zeva Female GSD 10/02/2009 http://www.dogster.com/dogs/1090361 Murphy male GSD 4/9/2010 Waiting at the Bridge: Buddy ~ GSD/Husky mix 1/00 Sadie ~ GSD 10/05 Lady ~ GSD 5/09 Pepper ~ Beagle 12/09

04-17-2010, 05:21 PM	#19 (permalink)
HeidiW Knighted Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 2,830	Yea, I cant find the ingredients online, so it is a mystery, looking for something good and at a good cost. Maybe I will go visit the store and read the bag some day. Fury your dogs are on it so far so good? __________________ Heidi, human mom to Daisy, 5 yr JRT Bella, 2 yr GSD Bo, 1 yr GSD Rest in Peace, Kasey, GSD Shelter 8/96-12/07 at the Bridge Patches, CS Shelter 4/93-4/05 at the Bridge Keisha, GSD 12/87-10/96 at the Bridge Tarsha, GSD my sweet 16 BD at the Bridge

04-17-2010, 05:27 PM	#20 (permalink)
alaman Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 340	I put 3 dogs on it that I was feeding Blue Buffalo and kept 3 on BB. Cannot tell the difference. In fact, comparing ingredients of same cannot see much difference Both rated 4* by the rating system cited above __________________ Pack leader for Heide, Chazz, China, Shelby, Bear, Isabella, and Ivan. At the Bridge: Chico and Atja