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talihawk 04-06-2014 12:36 AM

Why do long coat characterics vanish in puppies?
 
I think I managed to read or skim over all the past posts and threads on long coats but I haven't seen much of this discussed yet.

It seems most say you can't tell if a puppy will be a long coat until they are 7 to 9 weeks old. (assuming that both parents aren't long coated and are just carriers for the recessive gene.)

Why do some puppies seem to show long coated characteristics early on and have them vanish by age 7 weeks? ex: The fluffy ears or the slight wave of fur along the faces and back diminish, suggesting the dog will have just a plush / stock coat.

Do these characteristics ever come back again?

Thanks! :)

Cassidy's Mom 04-06-2014 12:47 AM

Many people, including experienced breeders who frequently have coaties show up in their litters can, tell much earlier, usually by 4 or 5 weeks and possibly even sooner. I'm not a breeder and I'm certainly no expert, but I am on coatie #2 and #3, and from my admittedly limited experience it's the fluffy ears that are the dead giveaway.

Whatever kind of coat the puppy has at 7-9 weeks old it's just a puppy coat, which will be eventually be replaced by the adult coat, so that's not the best indication. But the longer fur in and around the ears is a very good indication that the puppy will be a LC. I've also noticed a difference in the face shape, but since I'm NOT an expert it's easier for me to tell in the context of an entire litter, by comparing how this particular puppy looks in relation to its littermates.

middleofnowhere 04-06-2014 01:27 AM

I don't know. I will say that one long coat as a pup had wonky ears and total bedhead body. The other long coat had immaculate straight up ears and a coat not at all like the first dog as a pup but quite neat.

talihawk 04-06-2014 01:29 AM

Wow! do you have any pictures you could show? when your dog was a puppy?

middleofnowhere 04-06-2014 01:41 AM

sorry but none handy (moved a few months back & not yet really settled enough)

njk 04-06-2014 02:07 AM

I had always assumed it was the fluffy coat that was a giveaway, but my pup is now 5 months old and while not short, her coat is a lot shorter than it was as a puppy. Except the ears - the ears are still fluffy. She was so fluffy as a pup (pics below: 6-7 weeks old, then 8 weeks old) and I assumed her fur would just keep getting longer and longer but instead it got shorter lol our breeder has been in business (breeding, showing, and obedience) for 40 years so I trust her, but I did briefly wonder if we would end up with a short coat.

http://i61.tinypic.com/9fs680.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/1gg5ud.jpg

talihawk 04-06-2014 02:17 AM

Awesome, thanks so much for sharing the pictures Njk ! She's adorable :)

Cassidy's Mom 04-06-2014 04:06 AM

Here's the first picture I got of Dena, she was about 4 weeks old here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...Dena1month.jpg

This is 6 weeks, she's the one with the multicolored rick rack:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...kgroupshot.jpg

And in the back in this shot - the green collar boy in the front was the other coatie in the litter:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1.../Dena/pups.jpg

The litter at 8 weeks, both coaties are on the left:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...kgroupshot.jpg

And an 8 week solo shot:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...sFuzzy8wks.jpg

graciesmom 04-06-2014 01:48 PM

I've been told that at 4 or 5 weeks of age, if you hold (gently) their ears up they look like a hedgehog with the tufts around the ears and face. I don't know if this helps or not, but that's what I heard.

talihawk 04-06-2014 04:24 PM

They are very cute! Definitely can tell the differences between the pups.


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