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Slayers 04-03-2014 05:36 PM

Doggy Day Care
 
I am not sure if this has been covered before but would there be anything wrong with putting my 13week old puppy in daycare?


I want to make sure she will be able to react with other dogs and so far she seems very unsure which I know is ok but I want to make sure this does not continue.

e.rigby 04-03-2014 06:30 PM

I would advise against it. Doggie day cares are hit and miss, just like dog parks... only, when in doggie daycare you have no clue what's going on and for 'business' purposes the attendants are not going to let you know the 'bad' things that happen unless your dog comes out with a puncture or a bad scratch...

Yes, your puppy will be allowed to socialize, but more than likely, she will also learn bad behaviors. Depending on the type of dogs (personality, energy levels, etc) that also attend on the days your pup does, your puppy may end up learning that humans don't control situations and the only way to control a situation that is too rough or overwhelming is to resort to aggression.

In fact, most GSDs are kicked out of daycare after a certain age because they become 'too much' to handle... I do not believe this is because GSDs are 'too much to handle' I just think that after being pushed around so much they start to stick up for themselves and they are quite intimidating when they lay down the law.

Same thing happens with other breeds (such as boxers and pit bulls)

As for how I know... I use to work at a doggie day care... the things I saw were horrible. All I could think is... I would never let my dog attend without me (I was able to bring my dog on days I worked - but I would removed him and place him in a boarding kennel if there were dogs there that played too rough or bullied other dogs) ... play room attendants are only expected to do but so much, and the main thing is to prevent 'bad' fights... because dogs will 'tiff' constantly throughout the day and will have to be pulled apart. So long as no one gets injured nothing is every mentioned to the owners. I saw a lot of sweet puppies turn into reactive dogs because the puppies get bowled over and picked on a lot.

David Taggart 04-03-2014 07:44 PM

Make sure they are professionals, and do not mix different age groups ( definitely don't mix puppies with adolescents). Write down your questions, something like "Can you name me puppies who play together at the moment?" and come to see if that is true before you take your puppy there. Make sure that carers are doing their job and not sitting and yaking. A good Daycare centre could be remote from you, it will take time to find a proper one. I was looking for such place when my dog was young, and it happened in the end that I was leaving her with the puppysitter, an aged dog trainer, maybe it would be an option for you. With professional carers and puppies of her age she would only benefit being left there, because she is missing her brothers and sisters.

K9POPPY 04-03-2014 09:26 PM

Doggie daycare
 
I am sure I will be roasted alive here for saying this but I 'll say it anyway. Taking a 13 week old puppy to puppy daycare is like taking a 13 week old child to child daycare. It can be a good experience or it can turn out horribly wrong. Just think about it- usually depends on who works there-:mad: Bob

gsdsar 04-03-2014 09:35 PM

I would not do it. You are relying on strangers to make sure your dog has a positive experience. You are trusting them to understand and read dogs and know when your pup is over threshold.

I always want to be present with my dogs when interacting with other dogs. I have only key my dogs interact with non family dogs out if my presence once. 2 of my dogs stayed with a friend a few summers ago when a storm knocked out my power for a week and she had AC. but she is a fellow SAR handler. I trust her. I don't trust many people with my dogs.


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Galathiel 04-04-2014 11:32 AM

Even if puppies only interacted with other puppies, I wouldn't have done it with my pup. Because MY pup would have been the one teaching everyone bad things! He was overbearing and obnoxious unless he had someone that could match him. He only had one other pup that could give as good as it got and of course that was the only other GSD puppy in class. I constantly had to be intervening. Nah .. I wouldn't. I didn't have a shy, sensitive or insecure puppy obviously. If yours has even a little of any of those, it could be traumatic for them if they are paired up with one like mine.

wyoung2153 04-04-2014 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Slayers (Post 5319073)
I am not sure if this has been covered before but would there be anything wrong with putting my 13week old puppy in daycare?


I want to make sure she will be able to react with other dogs and so far she seems very unsure which I know is ok but I want to make sure this does not continue.

I am not compeltely against Doggy Day care.. did it for Titan and found out it wasn't for him at all. There are good facilities and there are bad ones.. it is all based off that and your dog.

Just off the last part of her being unsure already with other dogs, I would absolutely not do this. They are not going to "properly" socialize. The idea for them is to simply let your dog play with the other dogs and get that energy out. If your dog is already unsure, I can see this escalating to more of a fear simply because they aren't going to be focusing on her specifically. Theya ren't trainers. They are usually (as I found out) just people hired to watch the dogs, yes they may love the dogs, but they are not keen necessarily on behavior.

I would work with her first on her experience with other dogs yourself. Build that bond with her. Also, just curious, how is she uneasy with other dogs and is it necessary for her to have to get along with all dogs?

Chip18 04-04-2014 12:26 PM

Looks like DDC has been pretty much covered so I'll just add:
http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...allenging.html
:)

Slayers 04-04-2014 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by wyoung2153 (Post 5323089)
I would work with her first on her experience with other dogs yourself. Build that bond with her. Also, just curious, how is she uneasy with other dogs and is it necessary for her to have to get along with all dogs?

Just about every house around us has a dog. A few across the street will stand at their fence and bark like crazy when she is out, when this happens she will look around for me and then walk behind me like she is looking for protection.

I also took her on a walk the other day and a small dog run up to the fence and you could hear that dog just wanted to play but my GS just stopped dead in her tracks and wouldn't move at all.

We have been in contact with a trainer they are just waiting for 1 more dog to join before they start the class I wanted to do the work with her then use the day care for days when I am at work and my wife will be in class most the day then working at night.

martemchik 04-04-2014 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Slayers (Post 5324561)
Just about every house around us has a dog. A few across the street will stand at their fence and bark like crazy when she is out, when this happens she will look around for me and then walk behind me like she is looking for protection.

I also took her on a walk the other day and a small dog run up to the fence and you could hear that dog just wanted to play but my GS just stopped dead in her tracks and wouldn't move at all.

We have been in contact with a trainer they are just waiting for 1 more dog to join before they start the class I wanted to do the work with her then use the day care for days when I am at work and my wife will be in class most the day then working at night.

Talk to your neighbors and see if anyone wants to arrange a play date. If you have fenced in yards, its perfect.

Lots of dogs will bark from the other side of the fence. You're right that most times its not aggressive, and most times those dogs are very friendly and would have no problem interacting with your dog and playing.


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