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Mace937 01-22-2013 10:33 PM

need advice
 
I have a 3 yr old male German shepherd i have been having a problem with him submissive/excited urinating when i call him or pet him ect. After he does it he goes back and smells where he peed and sometimes licks it up. Has anyone else had this problem if so how did you handle it? Any advice and/or feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Jax08 01-23-2013 08:41 AM

bump up for answers

gsdraven 01-23-2013 09:01 AM

Has he ever been checked medically? How do you call and pet him? Are you excited or calm?

StephenV 01-23-2013 09:17 AM

Definitely rule out any medical issues. It sounds like anxiety/excitement. Dont scold or show any displeasure if he does urinate, he must never equate your approach with any degree of fear. I would try to make your interactions more calm, more indirect. Calm, calm calm. Change the focus away from you vs him. Or don't show him any attention other than mild pleasantness during these moments to avoid triggering the behavior. Be careful with your eye-contact and body language.

Girth 01-23-2013 09:20 AM

My wife and I adopted Mauser a little over two yrs ago. At that time he was ten months but over the next year or so he was bad about submissive/excited urinating more so with my wife than me. And his actions afterwards were the same as your dog. On occasion he will still do it but has slowly grown out of it. We did not make a big deal out of it and tried to avoid actions which would lead to the submissive/excited urination. Other than patience and a roll of paper towels nearby is about all I can suggest. I do train in schutzhund and that has boosted his confidence. Maybe that has helped as well but probably any training would suffice.

Mace937 01-23-2013 08:47 PM

i am always calm never scold him when he does it the most i do is say lets go outside i know whn he was younger my moms ex bf used to tease him jumping at fence making noise and when i found out he said he was playing with him like he did his dog. also i know whn he was a pup i caught the neighbor kids throwing rocks at him.

Mace937 01-23-2013 08:50 PM

yes hes been to the veterinarian also clean bill of health.i am calm when i call him after he pees alot of the time even if i take him outside he goes back to where he peed and sniffs or trys to lick it up. i used to walk him daily but ive had some issues with my hip i had surgery in aug 2012 getting another in feb. Hopefully after that i can atleast take him on short walks but i do go outside and play fetch with him on a regular basis. Ty for the advice i asked the vet in our town but he doesnt like GSDs so he said i should get rid of him that was over a year ago,hes not going anywhere i love him like i do my kids

StephenV 01-24-2013 08:33 AM

I wouldn't worry about the sniffing, it sounds like he is just curious about what just happened. How well can you "read" him? Can you describe his body posture when he does this? Are his ears and tail up or down? Is he slinking or bouncing around? Does he act guilty? Does he know he is peeing or does he act surprised by it? Perhaps something in his diet could be irritating his bladder? What kind of food/water do you feed him? Does he urinate when he is scolded?

Mace937 01-24-2013 07:09 PM

yes his ears are down tail between his legs he acts like hes in trouble when hes not worst trouble he gets into is a firm no and i tell him go to bed which is his kennel but i never close the door on it i feed him diamond food but he also dis it when he was on iams ty all for feedback getting advice from people tht may have had same problems and same breed of dog he is my 1st GSD and i know now i will always own a GSD my brother has Mace's brother and he doesnt have this problem and hes the 1st dog ive ever had thats done this so not quite sure how to help him feel better

StephenV 01-25-2013 09:12 AM

It sounds like submissive urination. There are lots of little things you can try. I am not a trainer and this is just from my own experience, there are excellent trainers on this board who can give you specific advice. For instance, before an episode is about to happen, distract him into thinking about something else such as chasing a favorite toy or tossing a treat unexpectedly at him. You want to interrupt that "oh my god here comes the big boss man, aaagh he's so awesome I'm going to peeeee" state of mind. Turn it into a "oh my god here comes the -WHATS this? ooo a yummy treat to chase!!


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