zora's xray

Zora · 08-09-2011, 09:51 PM

trying to post a picture of Zora's elbow x-rays....

I emailed these pics to the breeder and they said they don't see anything.... The vet said it is very clear and bad on the right elbow. Breeder also said right x-ray is blurry, but I think it is clear....left might be little fuzzy.

Zora · 08-09-2011, 09:55 PM

opinions??? breeder recommended second opinion. I worry about spending money that will be need for surgery on x-rays from a different vet, or would another vet look at the same x-rays?

I am very upset that the breeder is trying to pass it off as Pano. Our vet said that Pano is a large bone issue, which this is clearly not. I certainly don't want to risk not having surgery while she is young and then it be too late! She is 7 mos now.

I am confused and very angry!! I feel TERRIBLE for my puppy that wants to play so badly, but one run across the yard and she limps something terrible. Now it is so bad that one romp with the other dog and she is limping and her head bobbing!!

onyx'girl · 08-09-2011, 10:04 PM

Is the vet that did the x-ray experienced in reading films? I would go with an ortho before getting worked up and I do agree with your breeder on a second opinion(the films aren't very clear).

IMO, Pano would be my first thought with the age of your pup, it usually hits about this age...

Dr Mostosky in Marshall is renowned in this field, I would go to him for your 2nd opinion and he doesn't charge as much as other vets for this.

Zora · 08-09-2011, 10:16 PM

onyx'girl,

Thank you so much!!! I just looked him up and what wonderful reviews!! I am calling tomorrow!

cindy_s · 08-09-2011, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by onyx'girl

Is the vet that did the x-ray experienced in reading films? I would go with an ortho before getting worked up and I do agree with your breeder on a second opinion(the films aren't very clear).

IMO, Pano would be my first thought with the age of your pup, it usually hits about this age...

Dr Mostosky in Marshall is renowned in this field, I would go to him for your 2nd opinion and he doesn't charge as much as other vets for this.

Agree 100%. Take a deep breath. I can't imagine anyone could tell anything about that right elbow from that x-ray. Get a second opinion. It may turn out to be no big deal. I had a dog 20 yrs ago that went lame when he was 6 - 8 months old. I had x-rays done. That vet told me he had bone cancer! I FREAKED out. Took him to a specialist, and it turned out to just be a bad case of Pano. He was fine in a few months. Good luck.

onyx'girl · 08-09-2011, 11:10 PM

My vet of 30 years told me that Onyx(6 mos old) had severe HD when it was just Pano....the xray was positioned so badly it was ridiculous.
I wonder how many other dogs he misdiagnosed in his too long career. I didn't panic, but was more than p.o'd that the other vets in the practice wouldn't own up to his mistakes when I confronted them on the poor positioning/diagnosis.

carmspack · 08-10-2011, 01:24 AM

the x rays are terrible. I don't mean the result I mean the actual picture.

get them re done . send them off to OFA . no matter what age the animal is they will offer an opinion based on 3 orthopedic experts reading them .

Carmen
Carmspack Working German Shepherd Dogs

Liesje · 08-10-2011, 10:08 AM

Yeah the pics are hard to read, but are those actual digital x-rays or did you take a picture? If you took a picture of the films, then presumably they are not as bad looking at them in person.

Zora · 08-10-2011, 01:29 PM

those are pictures of the x-rays, not the actual x-rays. I am taking the actual x-ray's to the breeder tomorrow and have an appointment with Dr. Mostosky next Tuesday to look at them and retake if necessary. The breeder recommended Dr. Carpenter, but I already have an appointment set with Dr. Mostosky.

Liesje · 08-10-2011, 02:32 PM

Mos is very good, won't find any better anywhere close to here.

08-09-2011, 09:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
Zora Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts: 48	zora's xray trying to post a picture of Zora's elbow x-rays.... I emailed these pics to the breeder and they said they don't see anything.... The vet said it is very clear and bad on the right elbow. Breeder also said right x-ray is blurry, but I think it is clear....left might be little fuzzy.

08-09-2011, 10:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
onyx'girl Crowned Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SW, MI Posts: 17,605	Is the vet that did the x-ray experienced in reading films? I would go with an ortho before getting worked up and I do agree with your breeder on a second opinion(the films aren't very clear). IMO, Pano would be my first thought with the age of your pup, it usually hits about this age... Dr Mostosky in Marshall is renowned in this field, I would go to him for your 2nd opinion and he doesn't charge as much as other vets for this. __________________ Jane~ Kept by Onyx, Kacie and Gideon v Wildhaus aka Karlo

08-09-2011, 11:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
onyx'girl Crowned Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SW, MI Posts: 17,605	My vet of 30 years told me that Onyx(6 mos old) had severe HD when it was just Pano....the xray was positioned so badly it was ridiculous. I wonder how many other dogs he misdiagnosed in his too long career. I didn't panic, but was more than p.o'd that the other vets in the practice wouldn't own up to his mistakes when I confronted them on the poor positioning/diagnosis. __________________ Jane~ Kept by Onyx, Kacie and Gideon v Wildhaus aka Karlo

08-10-2011, 10:08 AM	#8 (permalink)
Liesje Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 12,963	Yeah the pics are hard to read, but are those actual digital x-rays or did you take a picture? If you took a picture of the films, then presumably they are not as bad looking at them in person. __________________ UCH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop FO OB1 CL1R CL1F RA TT HIT TDI CGC VPC's Coca-Cola HIT CGC SG UCH Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 AD T1 FO PA CL1R UNJ UCA HIT TT CGC OFA SG Pantalaimon vom Geistwasser BH AD HIT CGC

08-10-2011, 02:32 PM	#10 (permalink)
Liesje Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 12,963	Mos is very good, won't find any better anywhere close to here. __________________ UCH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop FO OB1 CL1R CL1F RA TT HIT TDI CGC VPC's Coca-Cola HIT CGC SG UCH Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 AD T1 FO PA CL1R UNJ UCA HIT TT CGC OFA SG Pantalaimon vom Geistwasser BH AD HIT CGC

08-09-2011, 09:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zora Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts: 48	opinions??? breeder recommended second opinion. I worry about spending money that will be need for surgery on x-rays from a different vet, or would another vet look at the same x-rays? I am very upset that the breeder is trying to pass it off as Pano. Our vet said that Pano is a large bone issue, which this is clearly not. I certainly don't want to risk not having surgery while she is young and then it be too late! She is 7 mos now. I am confused and very angry!! I feel TERRIBLE for my puppy that wants to play so badly, but one run across the yard and she limps something terrible. Now it is so bad that one romp with the other dog and she is limping and her head bobbing!!

08-09-2011, 10:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Zora Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts: 48	onyx'girl, Thank you so much!!! I just looked him up and what wonderful reviews!! I am calling tomorrow!

08-10-2011, 01:24 AM	#7 (permalink)
carmspack Knighted Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: ontario - Posts: 3,324	the x rays are terrible. I don't mean the result I mean the actual picture. get them re done . send them off to OFA . no matter what age the animal is they will offer an opinion based on 3 orthopedic experts reading them . Carmen Carmspack Working German Shepherd Dogs

08-10-2011, 01:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
Zora Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts: 48	those are pictures of the x-rays, not the actual x-rays. I am taking the actual x-ray's to the breeder tomorrow and have an appointment with Dr. Mostosky next Tuesday to look at them and retake if necessary. The breeder recommended Dr. Carpenter, but I already have an appointment set with Dr. Mostosky.

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